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QPR v Bolton Mar 30, 2019 17:02:02 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Mar 30, 2019 17:02:02 GMT

It finishes 2-1 to Bolton. A pitiful result. We are definitely a club in disarray. From the sounds of it there isn't much goodwill left towards the management inside the ground.

Bolton were 2-0 up and hit the bar and had a goalmouth scramble, we deserved to lose.

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QPR v Bolton Mar 30, 2019 18:15:05 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 18:15:05 GMT

One win since Boxing Day and it’s nearly April
We’ve lost about 14 or more games only one home win
We’ve been beaten at home by both teams in the bottom 2
If we stay up we don’t deserve to and I think we honestly are not good enough for this league anymore
We can’t blame lack of players etc anymore,the manager is shite the owners don’t have a clue either
Oh well we’ve got Norwich away then Millwall next

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QPR v Bolton Mar 30, 2019 18:15:08 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Mar 30, 2019 18:15:08 GMT

Just got in. McClaren's team selection for the game had me totally confused and why he chose to start with Lynch only he knows. I have said on many occassion that McClaren is tacticaly inept and today only emphasised the point. We did well in the first half and Freeman went close when his shot hit the post but his misplaced pass contributed to us going in one down at half time. In the 2nd half we never really threatened and when Bolton went 2 goals ahead the game was over. Wells got us a consolation goal but we are a poor team that lacks any real quality.

Rangel did alright on his return but the rest of the team seemed to lack any drive and some of our challenges were half hearted. Lynch was abysmal and must have something on McClaren to keep getting picked.

The Bolton players have not yet been paid this month and several of the QPR team don't deserve any pay this month.

I hoped that once we had got the FFP saga out of the way there might have been some light at the end of the tunnel but after today's performance the future looks very bleak.

When you can't beat the likes of Rotherham or Bolton when you have home advantage then it shows just how poorly your club is run.

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QPR v Bolton Mar 30, 2019 19:11:13 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 19:11:13 GMT

No manager would survive the sack in any other league in the world
With McClarens record with us
But we have no other options and it’s too late now
I think whatever league we are in next season I hope McClaren is well gone as he can’t work with what he’s got
Other managers would do better than this dire year we’ve had so far
The players also have no pride or excuses,Bolton should of been a routine 3 points like Rotherham
We are simply a laughing stock right now

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QPR v Bolton Mar 30, 2019 19:37:00 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 19:37:00 GMT

We are lucky we had that good mini run back in 2018
Because we would be bottom 2 by now by some margin
Based on recent form I feel that others fancy their chances to catch us in the league now, but we will rely on others to stay up on what we got points wise,as we won’t get many more now
Come on guys tell us your real feelings on what you think of your current football club right now,I’d like to hear your thoughts

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QPR v Bolton Mar 30, 2019 20:14:32 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Mar 30, 2019 20:14:32 GMT

Mar 30, 2019 19:11:13 GMT @singlespeed said:

No manager would survive the sack in any other league in the world
With McClarens record with us
But we have no other options and it’s too late now
I think whatever league we are in next season I hope McClaren is well gone as he can’t work with what he’s got
Other managers would do better than this dire year we’ve had so far
The players also have no pride or excuses,Bolton should of been a routine 3 points like Rotherham
We are simply a laughing stock right now

I think the team have played badly at times (well a fair few times) but they have also put in quality performances. It is that inconsistency that jars - if we were a crap side producing crap results we would not be surprised, but instead we are all (I guess) frustrated by the inconsistency. Now some of that is explained by the lack of depth in terms of player experience and quality, because it is true that we have had to cut our cloth far too thin this year to appease the gods of FFP, but that does not explain why players like Eze and Lynch are preferred starters are better players, or the fiasco that is our approach to loaning out players (e.g. leaving ourselves short up front and bringing back Manning to not even get on the bench today). So, the manager does have to take some of the blame (and often at clubs takes more than their share of the blame). Would I sack McClaren though? Nope, purely because it would achieve nothing unless he is on a high retainer based upon 'Play-2-Pay' - which I doubt! Sacking him will cost us more in terms of a settlement, and any 'filip' resulting from his successor would be worthless - what is the difference between 14th & 17th in this lack-lustre season!? Like most on this forum, my concern is what will happen next season, and I fear relegation beckons.

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QPR v Bolton Mar 30, 2019 20:25:34 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 20:25:34 GMT

I still think we are not safe this season
But Rotherham are so bad getting done 6-1 today too
That will probably be the only reason we stay up
I’m dreading next season no whatever league we’re in
But it don’t answer why we are struggling in such a poor league this Season
No excuses,if we can’t beat a bottom 3 side who haven’t won all season away,a team second bottom who are in turmoil and in big financial trouble on and off the pitch
It’s not exceptable in my opinion

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QPR v Bolton Mar 30, 2019 22:33:05 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Mar 30, 2019 22:33:05 GMT

Mar 30, 2019 20:25:34 GMT @singlespeed said:

I still think we are not safe this season
But Rotherham are so bad getting done 6-1 today too
That will probably be the only reason we stay up

We are actually better off tonight than we were this morning which is strange. We were 8 clear with 8 to play. Now it is 8 clear with 7 to play and Rotherham's goal difference took a pounding.

We are safe but this has turned in to one of the worst periods supporting QPR that I can remember. No joy currently and no joy looking ahead to the future. Bleak. Very bleak.

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QPR v Bolton Mar 31, 2019 9:19:54 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Mar 31, 2019 9:19:54 GMT

Just seen Lynch's marking for the first goal. Oh my god. Basic defending and he is wandering around ball watching. Then look at his attempt at a block for the second, half hearted run towards the ball then turns his back.
If Lynch is a Championship level centre half then I wish I'd carried on in football because I'd probably be playing for Real Madrid.

On the second goal there is also a pathetic attempt at a challenge before the shot (I think from Scowen) which speaks volumes about the attitude of the players right now.

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QPR v Bolton Mar 31, 2019 9:50:11 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 9:50:11 GMT

I thought Rangel did well and that’s promising
Wells showed with his goal he can be a class finisher at this level
But with lynch and under performing players we are a bad bad team right now
I still think on paper we are good enough to beat teams in this league
We seem to only up our level against Leeds

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QPR v Bolton Mar 31, 2019 14:03:40 GMT via mobile

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Post by Ghost on Mar 31, 2019 14:03:40 GMT

I am never one to call for the manager to be sacked but yesterday was the last straw for me. 3 months ago I thought he was doing a great job but 2019 has been a disaster and SM seems completely clueless. We are not out of relegation danger but hopefully 3 other clubs are bad enough to keep us up. He may not get the sack this week but I don’t want him here next season.

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QPR v Bolton Mar 31, 2019 14:17:51 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 14:17:51 GMT

I totally agree with ghost
McClaren hasn’t a clue and as good as said he hasn’t got anymore tricks left up his sleeve
The players have lost all faith now and his selections are baffling
Yesterday an early goal and Bolton were beaten but instead we concede two soft goals and then struggle to score again
You can’t keep shuffling the pack and that’s what he does all the time
Bolton and Rotherham have done it for me that’s the two lowest results ive known in this league for us
They are poor,really poor low in confidence teams that turn us over with barely any effort
We will stay up based on a poor bottom 3 unless Rotherham perform a miracle run,but on 2019 form we don’t deserve to stay in this league
McClaren has run out of excuses and we will probably not win another game but stay up still
I stated we wouldn’t win another game and we won’t,we won’t beat Norwich or Millwall away to start with

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QPR v Bolton Mar 31, 2019 14:28:56 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Mar 31, 2019 14:28:56 GMT

The pressure on McClaren looks set to increase further in the next fortnight as we are very very unlikely to get anything from Norwich away. We don't have a good record there anyway, never mind when they are top and we can't beat Rotherham or Bolton at home.

McClaren will be hoping we don't lose 4-0 or 5-0 or suchlike. He needs to keep it respectable or he will be a dead man walking. Fans just want to see the team trying, losing heavily even against the team top of the table just won't be acceptable.

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QPR v Bolton Mar 31, 2019 14:49:16 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 14:49:16 GMT

Millwall also are capable of battering us
I think if Norwich is a cricket score
Just get rid of him and let a caretaker manager run it the last few games
Start fresh for next season and pre season
McClaren will be gone anyway no matter what happens
One win in about 20 games is unacceptable in any league
We deserve to watch a team that try’s its best to win a game of football not a bunch of overpaid players who haven’t a clue
Most championship clubs would love to have players like wells and Hemed,Freeman and Luongo and others
We got a manager who can’t use the tools he’s got properly

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QPR v Bolton Apr 1, 2019 14:42:59 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Apr 1, 2019 14:42:59 GMT

I know it is not the same as being there, but a few points from watching the full 90 mins on video:

Team selection - why Hemed and Lynch, and did the unexpected loss of Cameron cause last-minute problems for McClaren? Against what was always going to be an aerial battle at the back, would it not have been better to play Smith instead of Hemed, and at the other end to play Leistner instead of Lynch? One definite positive was selecting BOS over Eze. i
The first 25 minutes were promising, with QPR dominating play. Those playing particularly well were BOS, Luongo, Rangel, Wszolek & scowen - that is nearly half of the outfield players so it indicates our dominance.
Then it all went pear-shaped on 34 minutes, as already mentioned above, Lynch failed to man-mark his player and Bolton could start to work their way into the game. QPR started to look nervy, showing obvious signs of their fragile confidence.
Comparing the CBs, Bolton were far better and dealing with both balls and opponents in their area. In contrast, at times, Lynch & Hall looked desperate and that led to Bidwell, Rangel, Luongo & Wszolek feeling less inclined to move away from covering them.
Rangel did well in his first start since injury and definitely was an improvement upon Furlong. It was right to replace him when McClaren did though.
Hemed, in contrast to Rangel, did not look much better than his last start. He still looks a pace (at least) away from full fitness, despite the extra time he has had, and that meant he was rarely effective up front. So why was he preferred to Wells or Smith? If it was because he is better in the air then I would have selected Smith; if it was because he was faster than Smith, I would have chosen Wells....
Substitutions, often a problem for us mere mortals to understand, but today seemed to make sense - Hall replaced by Leistner [49m]; Rangel replaced by Smith [61m]to go 4-4-2; and Hemed replaced by Wells 69m] with more of a 4-3-3 again. However, I have to query why Hemed was not replaced sooner than he was. McClaren could see that Hemed was getting caught too often offside and was generally not getting anywhere, and he had Wells available to run at the opposition in counter to BOS...
Their second goal came as 70 minutes and followed a period of Bolton pressure and QPR flapping. The only comment I can put into print was that I thought the final pass forward saw the goalscorer offside, but either way we were 0-2 down and needed to throw all caution to the wind!
Wells' goal was both a good goal and well-taken. I was delighted for him to finally get some reward for his effort.
Negatives - Still producing lots of effort in the final third for very little reward. As long as we fail to convert half-chances into goals we will suffer. (You cannot win games by not scoring, but you can prevent losing games by scoring! A shaky defence means we must score to allow us a chance to win.) Positives - Rangel's return; BOS' attacking & defending (he did more of both in the first 10 minutes than Eze has done in a game); and goood play as well from Wszolek/ Scowen/ Luongo.

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