Personally i think we have the manager at the club already. Didn't Eustice make a pretty decent fist of it after taking over on a temp basis?
As we already have a caretaker manager in the building already, plus an ex-manager in Ramsay, I cannot see the club being in any rush to bring someone else in (who is not working because they were sacked). I really, really hope it does not come to that though!
I have listened to Warburtons comments after the game and he says he is frustrated that we again didn't capitalise on the chances created and he bemoans giving the goal away and our lack of quality in the final third.
The manager sets the tone with his style of play,the players he signs and those players that he chooses for each game. In his 18 months with us he has signed around 17 players on permanent contracts and several more on temporary contracts. Yesterday, against Wycombe our squad included Kane, Barbet, Ball, Carroll, Dykes, Bonne, Masterson, Thomas, Willock,Kelman, Kelly and Adomah who are all his signings.
The damning fact ist that the best players currently at QPR are BOS, Chair and Dieng who were all signed by previous managers.
I'm not sure that any of the players signed by Warburton would currently recouped the money we spent on them. Even those we got on a free would cost us money because we will need to pay them to go.
Despite his poor player choices and his negative style I think that the board will stick with him for no other reason than not wanting to pay him off and knowing that his contract finishes at the end of the season anyway.
I think that the board will stick with him for no other reason than not wanting to pay him off and knowing that his contract finishes at the end of the season anyway.
Conversely, the fact his contract finishes at the end of the season may be why they choose to sack him, because it won't cost much.
As I mentioned elsewhere I don't see how we get any points from the next 2 games. Then we go into 2021 9 games without a win and probably in the bottom 3. He survives now, but how does he survive then?
I think that the board will stick with him for no other reason than not wanting to pay him off and knowing that his contract finishes at the end of the season anyway.
Conversely, the fact his contract finishes at the end of the season may be why they choose to sack him, because it won't cost much.
As I mentioned elsewhere I don't see how we get any points from the next 2 games. Then we go into 2021 9 games without a win and probably in the bottom 3. He survives now, but how does he survive then?
I'm not sure that the owners still have or ever really had any affinity with the club and after Warburton's failure to spend wisely in the transfer market I don't think that they have any intention to shell out on paying off his contract and probably having to pay out even more on a manager who will want to bring in his own players and backroom staff in January.
My belief is that the owners only ever saw the club as a cash maker that they got totally wrong by mismanaging it's finances, not once but twice. All of our main owners seem to have disappeared and realised that running a football club is out of their depth. As a result they tried to pass the buck and have left things to Lee Hoos, Amit and Les who continued to make poor decisions and are responsible for appointing Warburton and authorising his signings.
Sacking Warburton at this time would be an admittance that the whole board and all the owners are failures and whilst I believe that is true I doubt they will want to admit it. Even if they do sack Warburton I'm convinced that nobody at the club have done any homework on who should replace him. I certainly don't see the point in releasing him just to let Eustace take charge for a few games.
Maybe they will prove me wrong and Warburton will get the elbow but unless they oust him before Christmas and get somebody in who can shore things up with signings in January I don't see it happening. As we know from previous seasons, the owners don't like bringing in players in January and unless they tear up that script we are stuck with what we have, unfortunately!
Stoatey you make a lot of valid points but we are playing in league one next season if warburton stays on the problems are from higher above I totally agree with that
Here, we take a look at three managers QPR should consider as the pressure continues to build on Mark Warburton in West London…
Danny Cowley Cowley has been in this position before. He took over at Huddersfield Town last season when they were battling relegation. He is clearly a very good motivator and knows how to raise spirits in the dressing room, and he could be a shrewd replacement. Cowley took Lincoln from the National League to League One in the space of three years, and knows how to build a winning mentality amongst a squad of players. That’s exactly what QPR need right now. They need someone who can get the best out of the players and get them to put their bodies on the line for three points.
Nigel Pearson Pearson is a manager with a lot of experience and is known for getting the best out of players and going in in difficult situations. He was perhaps unfairly sacked by Watford towards the end of last season, and he may be eager to get back into work soon. The 57-year-old knows what it takes to win promotion from this league and pick up results, which is what QPR need at this moment in time.
Paul Cook Cook has proven to thrive under a tight budget before, and could be the best option here. Cook worked wonders with Wigan Athletic last term, steering them well clear of relegation before entering administration. The job he did whilst all the off-field problems were occurring was remarkable, and having won promotion with Wigan, Portsmouth and Chesterfield, he knows how to build a winning mentality. His style of play is impressive too, so he will be keen to get QPR firing in the final third if he got the job.
Here, we take a look at three managers QPR should consider as the pressure continues to build on Mark Warburton in West London…
Danny Cowley Cowley has been in this position before. He took over at Huddersfield Town last season when they were battling relegation. He is clearly a very good motivator and knows how to raise spirits in the dressing room, and he could be a shrewd replacement. Cowley took Lincoln from the National League to League One in the space of three years, and knows how to build a winning mentality amongst a squad of players. That’s exactly what QPR need right now. They need someone who can get the best out of the players and get them to put their bodies on the line for three points. Cowley is a West Ham fan so would fit in well with our owners. In his favour Cowley did well at Lincoln but when given a chance in the Championship at Huddersfield where things didn't work out and he achieved just a 32.5% win record. In comparison we sacked both Ian Holloway and Steve McClaren whose win records at QPR were 32.5% and 34.8% respectively. Not sure exactly what happened at Huddersfield but he left under a bit of a cloud with their Chairman suggesting they needed "a different vision" going forward.
I was however, impressed a week or so ago when he appeared on Sky and was doing some punditry work on one of our games. He had clearly watched us and made from some very observant comments about Rob Dickie and the weak areas of our defence that were spot on.
Nigel Pearson Pearson is a manager with a lot of experience and is known for getting the best out of players and going in in difficult situations. He was perhaps unfairly sacked by Watford towards the end of last season, and he may be eager to get back into work soon. The 57-year-old knows what it takes to win promotion from this league and pick up results, which is what QPR need at this moment in time.
I'm not sure what people see in Pearson because apart from Leicester his record at other clubs isnt very good at all. The good news for me is that he normally asks for too much money anyway. My advice would be to not go near him.
Paul Cook Cook has proven to thrive under a tight budget before, and could be the best option here. Cook worked wonders with Wigan Athletic last term, steering them well clear of relegation before entering administration. The job he did whilst all the off-field problems were occurring was remarkable, and having won promotion with Wigan, Portsmouth and Chesterfield, he knows how to build a winning mentality. His style of play is impressive too, so he will be keen to get QPR firing in the final third if he got the job.
LFW have been reading this site because I suggested Paul Cook last week. .
I don't like Pearson. I thought Cowley was sacked harshly by Huddersfield. Cook did a good job at Wigan.
None are particularly inspiring but that is what the club can attract right now.
I am in agreement.
If the board do decide to replace Warburton and his zonal marking system they have to ask themselves whether they are prepared to give the new manager any money to spend in January or is the door to the safe now closed. I suppose its possible that they may sanction the arrival of a loan or two but even that can be prohibitive due to some players salaries.
The other issue will be BOS because we know he's leaving but when? I'd take £500k for him in January (to reduce the salary bill) rather than lose him for nothing in the summer but I suspect he will sign a pre contract deal elsewhere and stay. Any new manager will then have the issue of a player who doesn't really want to be with us and a squad of players who are mostly Warburton signings and in the main not Championship quality.
Lets face it, we all know it'll be Sherwood who gets the job if Warburton does get sacked as long as Les is here
I'm fully aware I'll probably get laughed at for this suggestion, but I'd take a gamble on someone like Roy Keane. Worked well with Ireland and got Sunderland out of this league before. Also wouldn't be afraid to give the players a kick when they need it
Bloody hell Roy Keane they would be scared to lose a game with him it’s not a bad suggestion but like most wouldn’t go anywhere near us knowing how crap we are run
I'm fully aware I'll probably get laughed at for this suggestion, but I'd take a gamble on someone like Roy Keane. Worked well with Ireland and got Sunderland out of this league before. Also wouldn't be afraid to give the players a kick when they need it
Can you imagine Roy Keane getting back in the dressing room after Barbet has given away 2 penalties in the second half, or after Todd Kane has backed so far away he's now sat in the stand to allow a player to run 60 yards and curl one in to the top corner, or after Dominic Ball has spent 90 minutes chasing blades of grass without ever touching the ball!
He'll be sentenced to life in prison for multiple murders with a fortnight.
It's frightening how quickly it has fallen apart. After the Brentford and Bristol City games there were positives to take. Even after Reading we could feel a bit hard done by. But Millwall, Stoke, Wycombe ...
I really don't have a clue what we do now. I've been a supporter of Warburton, partly because I felt that he'd done ok in difficult circumstances and partly because we have a plan (which I think is the right one) and we need to stick with it rather than change direction again. Also I suspect that we'd struggle to get anyone better.
Now I'm less sure. But one thing I am sure of is that whatever decision is made about the manager we need to stick with the plan and the basic style of play. That rules out quite a few of the usual candidates.
My inclination is still to stick with him but can we afford a loan or two to fill some of our worst gaps?
It's frightening how quickly it has fallen apart. After the Brentford and Bristol City games there were positives to take. Even after Reading we could feel a bit hard done by. But Millwall, Stoke, Wycombe ...
I really don't have a clue what we do now. I've been a supporter of Warburton, partly because I felt that he'd done ok in difficult circumstances and partly because we have a plan (which I think is the right one) and we need to stick with it rather than change direction again. Also I suspect that we'd struggle to get anyone better.
Now I'm less sure. But one thing I am sure of is that whatever decision is made about the manager we need to stick with the plan and the basic style of play. That rules out quite a few of the usual candidates.
My inclination is still to stick with him but can we afford a loan or two to fill some of our worst gaps?
I could have almost written this too Ghost ! My sentiments exactly!! I would also add that getting players in on loan is expensive and may not work (Hemed) and buying in January is often the wrong time to buy (plus smacks of desperation)... Not saying we should ignore loan deals but rather we should not pin all our hopes of them. I think we should look at what we have and use it better - that means a 'Plan B'!
Last Edit: Dec 21, 2020 10:55:06 GMT by kingfisher
