Club Ambition

I dont know to be honest Surrey Chad my guess would be player transfers, I guess good either way though.

This is QPR

this is what happens

even when we were old division 1 and early premier league we were never gonna win anything

the game has changed money has changed the game the best players in the WORLD play in england not like it used to be when QPR could compete

the big clubs have got rich and bigger whilst we get punnished to try and compete alongside them

clubs like us will be like this from now on we tried to compete and i for one hated every minute of those seasons back in the premier league

a mate of mine asked me when we were having that decent run of wins

him: QPR on a little run mate i watched them versus Watford and saw u beat Brentford too do u want to get to play offs and go up i think u can you know

me: i want us to be hovering outside the play offs to be honest.....if we did reach the play offs what i seriously would want is for an unlucky deflection in the last minute of the play off final to keep us in the championship and us to have some kind of hope of a decent season next season

i think both Charlie and Johansen will sign for us close season on a perm basis and i think we will have a better season next term

but truth be known we wont be able to compete in premier league ever again and highest we will ever get will be bottom 3 premier league and struggle each game

ambition for our club has been ruled by the rules of financial fair play and the rubbish behind that had we wanted to we do still have the steel magnate Mittal behind us silently and we could go all out again and spend big but why? it would put our beloved club out of business because for some reason the premier league and football league want the big clubs uncatchable

i reckon there will be a breakaway euro league with all the big boys leaving the leagues

and we will come under the other side of football in some kind of 2nd tier

so in answer to your question what choice do we have we have to chug along because the league has said so THEY KNEW this fella mittal and his son in law had the clout but they just didnt want it to happen ok we werent punnished with ny points reduction so we got off lightly but i think we were told if we do it again and overspend they would come down on us Pompey and Bolton Styleee and we would have years of being in the wilderness

It is indeed worth returning to this thread northwesthoop, because that is where we are (again) and your comments plus those of @tomcat75 really do reflect the frustration felt by most on this site. The time to have that financial backing to lift you permanently up to the elite in the PL have now gone I reckon. Those elite will breakaway to form a Super-Euro style league I am sure.
Looking at QPR specifically, we are a bit of a busted flush in that we had our chance in the PL and blew it with the wrong managers/buying the wrong players and poor club management by the Board. Having said all that, the club has a small stadium (and thus a small paying number of supporters) and we cannot expect rich Board members to keep funding season after season to keep us afloat. So that means getting the debt down to a meaningful (!) level by selling players each year. It does not take a rocket scientist to realise that selling the 'family silver' each season means, at best, you will probably not progress. There are exceptions to this rule of course - given the endorsement of the Board to a long-term manager to build up a young, skilled team that plays the way the manager demands, then success is possible. (Think Burnley when promoted or Ipswich/Forest in their hey day, and Brentford last season.) The problem is that too many clubs are hoping to achieve success now by this same route, so young and talented players are being watched at a young age (and then often hoovered up by the PL academies to rot).
I love QPR but there is no 'magic bullet', and sadly lots of cowboys waiting to rip us off. Austin's arrival has rejuvenated the team and provided much-needed goals, but that Charlie is not the long-term future - Charlie Kelman should be if he gets to progress his career alongside other U23s. Off to help tank a wall now I am depressed...

we dont have many fans now Northwest

didnt when i started supporting them in 1984 either

get him a shirt and its JOB DONE LOL

how old is your boy?

my 2 girls dont care about sport

ur a lucky man Northwest

i was a late starter

9

all i did morning noon and night was wear my QPR Guiness home top also socks and shorts

my horrible mum wouldt buy me shinpads how very dare she say i dont want you wearing them and your boots to bed again HOW VERY DARE SHE

people in my manchester school at the time were like "whats this guiness shirt? why QPR? why not man utd or liverpool like us?"

not for me Gary Bannister and John Byrne were my Charlie Austin

salute to you and your boy

I should probably put this in a banner at the top of the forum because it is so true and rather sums up QPR in this last 5 years or so!



This is very true. It is not impossible to go up and succeed. The blueprint for success is there.

It still irks me that the 2 teams who went up with us in 2014 Leicester and Burnley are still up there now - and let's not forget one of them won the league! And both have been in Europe since.
Why oh why couldn't we have been more like them.
Especially Burnley who are a club with a ground of similar size to ours. It's not like both of those clubs were giants of the game who it would have been unrealistic to expect QPR to keep up with.

Incredibly frustrating.

I know I bleat on about the owners but for me they are the issue. We need the men at the top to give the club direction and set out a plan. Never forget that TF and RG really wanted to buy West Ham and we were an after thought when that deal failed.

Unfortunately under the 2 major owners (TF and the RG family ) the club direction was to blindly spend all its money on big names in the hope that they would keep us in the Premiership. The reality was that those players and managers were on the wain, lacked any ambition and just wanted a big last pay day.  Our owners at that time were very niave and as a result we ended up relegated twice and lumbered with a big fine.

I might be wrong but the 3rd owner (LM)  is rarely at the club and he lets Amit run his interest in the club. This is a bit like the RG family who leave everything to RG.  Whilst Amit must take some of the responsibility for the frivolous spending and the way we were run Im convinced he does have our well being as a top priority and his caveat would be that he would always have been out voted by the major share holders. 

Briatore might have been an unusual character who had to be in control but he did have his plan. Lots of people laughed at his antics but ultimately under his direction he made us a Premiership club that was financially secure.

Under the current owners we have no plan, we are a championship club and struggling with our finances.

Things will never change until the men at top give some direction and appoint quality at all levels of the club. I don't see that happening under TF and RG.