Warburton Gone - Official

one to consider 
wayne rooney has done a great job at derby 
literally had everything thrown at him 

lost 15 
weve lost 14 
but he had points deductions to deal with and no transfer budget too

Hes as good as saying hes gone end of the season then isnt he, by those comments.
What makes me laugh he saids we will see after the next 10 games what happens
does he really think we will play those extra 3 games 

Warburton was interviewed on Sky today and he reiterated what he said previously about staying until his contract finishes in the summer.

It's going to be a huge summer with several players and the manager out of contract. I can only presume that everything revolves around where we finish in the league because it does seem a strange move to leave discussions until so late.

If Warburton goes I would expect Barbet to also go. In addition I would also expect offers to be made for some of our better players.

I think his position will be called into question even more now because of the lack of fight.

We played that game like we were mid-table and it was a dead rubber. Where was the fight and determination? Where was the plan? Win tongith and Top 6 is well and truly back on, but played with the intensity of a pre-season match down the local park.

We didn't threaten at all and we seem to be getting worse.

We just pass it around, Barbet to Dickie to Dunne to Hendrick back to Dickie, inside to Dunne, back to Westwood. Repeat. What has happened to us for god sake?

Have lots of thoughts on this one gents, so will attempt to condense them down into something that makes some sense.

Very much feels project over with Warburton. Was an okay chapter, got us to a point but I don’t see any way back for him now. This story is done, and it’ll just now be a question of whether he goes before or at the end of the season.

There is a huge danger that if they don’t act soon, they (the club) end up creating a ‘culture of losing’ that will hangover into next season and leave us in a miserable position already playing catch up next campaign. Given the turnover I’m expecting in the summer, how recent results have exposed the true poverty in terms of quality in this squad, and the situations other clubs find ourselves in; I do think it’s conceivable next season is spent trying to stay in the division rather than trying to get out of it. I expect Willock, Dickie, Dieng and Dykes to go in the Summer. On top of Austin retiring, Johansen going, Adomah and Wallace being released, Barbet going back to France and all of the loans returning to their parent clubs. This leaves us with a fragile and vulnerable squad moving forward. So yes, I anticipate i problematic campaign next season regardless of the manager.

Have seen talk on here about him being unfortunate with injuries and circumstances conspiring against you. Well… these challenges are ‘known knowns’. It is football. You know you will have to contend with injuries, suspensions and absences at some stage. It is your job as the ‘manager’ to navigate them, and successfully managing these events are what separate the men from the boys. I therefore don’t think Warburton deserves any sympathies in this department. The events/crises have exposed is deficiencies as a manager, his failure to adapt, his failure to manage players and situations appropriately and develop strategies to overcome these situations. The consequence of his failings and misgivings have been a collapse in form and confidence in the team. So, no sympathies from me on this one. Harsh perhaps, but it isn’t as if something totally unexpected as happened, such as players now being to used their hands, or aliens landing on the pitch. These are all foreseeable and plausible situations which he has failed to prepare for and react to.

As far as a replacement is concerned, given the lack of quality managers around, you would expect Eustace to be given a chance. If clubs like Swansea were sniffing around before there suggests there is some belief within the football community that this guy has ideas and a brain and could work, so it maybe worth a risk. As I mention above, turnover will be big this summer, and though I expect Chair to stay until the window after World Cup, this will be the beginning of a new cycle or new project, and I think you probably want somebody young to come in and build it. Equally, his salary would be low because of his lack of experience and there’s no compensation fee to be paid to another club.

Beyond him, if you’re looking at players already in a job, much depends on how the play-offs go in League One and below. I can’t conceive any Championship manager taking the position; although I do think the club are probably admirers of Neil Critchley (Blackpool) and Mark Robins (Coventry). We are not a large enough step up for Rooney, nor are we going to be willing to pay the kind of money someone like Daniel Farke would want, who besides could get a better job in Europe. Chris Coleman doesn’t feel realistic and a heavy risk. I’d anticipate there will be some at the club hoping that Sheffield Wednesday don’t get promoted so Darren Moore becomes an option, and possibly Oxford too with Karl Robinson. I’d anticipate that there will also be admiration for Paul Warne (Rotherham) and Leam Williamson (Wigan) — but I anticipate both getting promoted. Liam Manning might attract too, but he only took the MK job in August so that might be a step too early, a la Hasselbaink.

Beyond that other contenders; Michael Duff (Cheltenham), Mark Bonner (Cambridge), Ian Evatt (Bolton). Of those outside the first team picture; Paul Cook, Jonathan Woodgate, Jason Euell and possibly Liam Rosenior, though again none of those inspire.

Two serious outsiders who shouldn’t be ruled out altogether, though both would be controversial choices for various reasons. Joey Barton, who is enjoying a fabulous season at Bristol Rovers. And Emma Hayes; with the uncertainty at Chelsea, it would be a bold and unconventional move, but not necessarily an impossible one.

He did a pretty good job at Fleetwood until he hit a bump in the road. And they way they’ve declined suggests that the problems were bigger than him. He’s getting a lot out of that Bristol Rovers team, so I don’t think he should be frowned upon as a potential candidate.
Realistically I don’t think he gets the job, not with the current power dynamics at the club. There’s always the risk Joey gives in to that petulant devil that sits on his shoulder telling him to do mischievous things, so there are legal and ethical risks with him. And equally, how many employers let alone football clubs nowadays actively employ people who will challenge them, hold them to account or dare hold a mirror up to them? Very very few. For that reason and that reason alone, Barton isn’t going to get the job, and likewise neither will Roy Keane.

If Joey Barton becomes manager the site will be shutting down. Can you imagine how toxic the fanbase would be with him in charge.

I can't imagine Barton ever managing above League 1/2 because bigger clubs won't put up with his nonsense and bad press. Plus fans will turn on him so quickly on a bad run.

The female manager will be a great choice...if we want to get our name in the papers.


You point out some interesting options jrperry1882, but the good ones would cost us in compensation. I wonder if the club could try a foreign manager again.

I honestly don't see the value in appointing Eustace because surely he's massively involved now, so why would we improve just because Warburton is out of the way? Eustace probably does most of the training and always seems to be right next to Warburton on the touchline anyway.