Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 23, 2022 14:50:35 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Apr 23, 2022 14:50:35 GMT

Brown scores on half time for Stoke, 1-0 and they deserve it

We have been very poor, created nothing. We looked very deep, like we are scared to lose when we need to win.

All to do second half but we've been second best by a long way. The goal was coming, they had numerous corners and had wasted numerous good openings with poor crosses and bad choices.

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 23, 2022 14:51:01 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Apr 23, 2022 14:51:01 GMT

HT and 1-0 down. Probably fair scoreline.

As said earlier in thread, McCallum and Sanderson look a little lost and are clearing the ball (rather than using it), and Dozzell is back to being outmuscled. If he is fit then surely Adomah on soon, and (fingers crossed) Ball replacing Dozzell?

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 23, 2022 14:54:43 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Apr 23, 2022 14:54:43 GMT

Apr 23, 2022 14:51:01 GMT kingfisher said:

Probably fair scoreline.

They've had 10 shots, we've had 2 (none on target)

Feels like the QPR we saw at Barnsley again to me. No zip, no attacking intent. We look lethargic and tired. The ball is primarily going round in circles back to Westwood, Dunne and Barbet who end up going long and Stoke pick up on it in midfield and they attack again

Generally very poor performance from us.

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jimjams Terry Fenwick Posts: 2,392	Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 23, 2022 15:09:01 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jimjams on Apr 23, 2022 15:09:01 GMT Dozzell is one of the few players trying to pass forward... No point swapping him for Ball We need to go 3 at the back and get Adomah on

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 23, 2022 15:59:24 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Apr 23, 2022 15:59:24 GMT

That was very poor. Literally a carbon copy of our performances at Barnsley and Blackburn.

Thomas hit the post with a header but our subs offered nothing (Adomah very poor, Austin and Gray barely had a touch)

What has annoyed me today is the lack of urgency in our play. We are meant to be playing for Top 6, our season was on the line today... and we didn't lay a glove on them. Very flat.

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 23, 2022 16:02:55 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Apr 23, 2022 16:02:55 GMT

Apr 23, 2022 15:59:24 GMT northwesthoop said:

That was very poor. Literally a carbon copy of our performances at Barnsley and Blackburn.

Thomas hit the post with a header but our subs offered nothing (Adomah very poor, Austin and Gray barely had a touch)

What has annoyed me today is the lack of urgency in our play. We are meant to be playing for Top 6, our season was on the line today... and we didn't lay a glove on them. Very flat.

When you have Sanderson and McCallum always looking to play back - rather than forward, and Dozzell not moving into space to take a return ball, then you have a faltering team performance. Add to that the pedestrian pace of Gray and Adomah still looking out of sorts, and we got what we deserved. I feel really sorry for Field, Dunne, Barbet, Chair and Westwood!

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 23, 2022 16:56:40 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Apr 23, 2022 16:56:40 GMT

QPR have now lost 10 of the last 15 league games having only lost 10 of the previous 40 prior to this run

That's going from losing just 1 in 4 to 2 of 3.... how did we fall off the cliff quite so badly?

Nobody could have predicted a decline quite so dramatic.

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 23, 2022 18:51:10 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Apr 23, 2022 18:51:10 GMT

It was the first fishing match of the new season today and it meant I would miss watching the game.

Heard the result on my drive home and I'm going to watch the match later despite my son telling me not to bother and that we had 10 shots but none on target.

It seems another strange Warburton decision to play Sanderson but leave Albert on the bench.

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 23, 2022 23:43:46 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Apr 23, 2022 23:43:46 GMT

I have watched the game and even though we could ofstill got a play off place too many of our players looked as though they were all ready on their summer holidays. Like others have already said there must be something written into the contract of Dion Sanderson to say he must play a set amount of games because he certainly doesn't warrant a first team place.

As a team we have gone back to our bad old ways and our defending of corners and set pieces is as poor as it was when Warburton first took over. It's as though panic sets in when we have to face a corner and nobody seems to know their job.

We have some good players but we also have too many who are below average for this league. It was interesting in the post match comments that Warburton said at half time it was Charlie and Albert who were trying to inspire the other players. We know that Sanderson, Westwood, McCallum, Gray have no real allegiance because they won't be here next season. Shouldn't it be the manager and captain who are doing the encouraging although possibly Barbet might have also made up his mind to leave and maybe he's also just looking to see out the final few matches.

The way we are seeing out the season has become shambolic because everything has fallen apart with only the occasional acceptable performance.

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 24, 2022 6:02:32 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Apr 24, 2022 6:02:32 GMT

Apr 23, 2022 23:43:46 GMT stoatey said:

Like others have already said there must be something written into the contract of Dion Sanderson to say he must play a set amount of games because he certainly doesn't warrant a first team place.

As a team we have gone back to our bad old ways and our defending of corners and set pieces is as poor as it was when Warburton first took over. It's as though panic sets in when we have to face a corner and nobody seems to know their job.

Sanderson was woeful. At one point he tried to shoot from 25 yards when he had options. I think it was demoralising yesterday for Kakay. He's our own player who always gives 100% and we instead play a loan player out of position ahead of him. That's poor.

On the set pieces you are right to highlight these because it's another area where we have fallen apart. I think up until January we had conceded from the fewest in the league... now we seem to concede from a set piece every other match. So it's just another part of the big question 'what has happened to us and why'.

By my records yesterday was the first match in which QPR have failed to have a shot on target since the 2-0 home defeat against Preston in October 2020. How can a team with so much to play for offer so little? That is what brings Warburton into question for me. I'm still behind him, but that is concerning.

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 24, 2022 12:37:31 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Apr 24, 2022 12:37:31 GMT

Apr 24, 2022 6:02:32 GMT northwesthoop said:

Apr 23, 2022 23:43:46 GMT stoatey said:

Like others have already said there must be something written into the contract of Dion Sanderson to say he must play a set amount of games because he certainly doesn't warrant a first team place.

As a team we have gone back to our bad old ways and our defending of corners and set pieces is as poor as it was when Warburton first took over. It's as though panic sets in when we have to face a corner and nobody seems to know their job.

Sanderson was woeful. At one point he tried to shoot from 25 yards when he had options. I think it was demoralising yesterday for Kakay. He's our own player who always gives 100% and we instead play a loan player out of position ahead of him. That's poor.

On the set pieces you are right to highlight these because it's another area where we have fallen apart. I think up until January we had conceded from the fewest in the league... now we seem to concede from a set piece every other match. So it's just another part of the big question 'what has happened to us and why'.

By my records yesterday was the first match in which QPR have failed to have a shot on target since the 2-0 home defeat against Preston in October 2020. How can a team with so much to play for offer so little? That is what brings Warburton into question for me. I'm still behind him, but that is concerning.

Its possible that I might be reading too much into the situation but is he sending Kakay and Albert a message by saying he rates an on-loan centre back rather than either of them in the right back position because he believes they would be more of a liability.

I can understand that with Albert because his inclination is to get forward and defending isn't the best part of his game. However, Kakay is much more suited to play as a right back than arguably anybody else available and for me it was Warburton saying, I agreed with Todd Kane but it shouldn't be said out loud.

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Stoke v QPR 23Apr22 1 - 0 FT 10th/63pts Apr 25, 2022 11:56:52 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Apr 25, 2022 11:56:52 GMT

Here are WLS' ratings of the players (although I feel Chair & Field did better than they awarded):

Kieren Westwood: 8 By far Rangers’ best player. Produced a number of saves, the pick of the bunch being when he kept out a deflected strike from Romaine Sawyers in the first half.

Dion Sanderson: 5 Deployed at right-back in the absence of the injured Moses Odubajo. He wasn’t convincing and his loan spell hasn’t been a success.

Jimmy Dunne: 6 Fully committed as always. Won several challenges.

Yoann Barbet: 6 Decent enough but nowhere near as effective in a two-man central defence as in a three.

Sam McCallum: 6 Looked to get forward from left-back but didn’t make much of an impact.

Sam Field: 6 Not bad. Competed well in midfield against a physical Stoke side.

Andre Dozzell: 5 Gave the ball away on occasions and the game largely passed him by.

Luke Amos: 5 Also guilty of being loose in possession before being replaced in the second half.

Ilias Chair: 6 Always keen to try to create something but, without Chris Willock, has not been able to carry the team in the way Willock did in Chair’s absence earlier in the season.

George Thomas: 5 Ran around a lot but wasn’t much of a problem for the Stoke defence.

Lyndon Dykes: 5 Totally off the pace and offered no goal threat whatsoever.

Albert Adomah: 6 At least brought something resembling an attacking threat when introduced in the second half.

Charlie Austin: 5 Made no impact after coming on.

Andre Gray: 6 Came on for Thomas, who looked like he had more energy having played for 70 minutes than the man replacing him.

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