I think the international break will come at a good time for us. We have brought in a lot of new faces, and maybe a few more to come. A couple of weeks together with Marti and his team, gelling on the training ground can only bring benefits. Confidence is massive for this team, as we saw towards the end of last season. I'd expect to see a much more cohesive unit post break. Like others, I'd love to see a pacy finisher. But I'd be surprised if we get someone in who fits that bill. Although a loan is always a possibility. Frey is playing with more confidence, and Hopefully Celar just needs a bit of luck, and he'll be up and running soon too. The big positive is that we are now creating chances. Two weeks on the training ground together, could do wonders.
I think the international break will come at a good time for us. We have brought in a lot of new faces, and maybe a few more to come. A couple of weeks together with Marti and his team, gelling on the training ground can only bring benefits. Confidence is massive for this team, as we saw towards the end of last season. I'd expect to see a much more cohesive unit post break. Like others, I'd love to see a pacy finisher. But I'd be surprised if we get someone in who fits that bill. Although a loan is always a possibility. Frey is playing with more confidence, and Hopefully Celar just needs a bit of luck, and he'll be up and running soon too. The big positive is that we are now creating chances. Two weeks on the training ground together, could do wonders.
Very good points, especially about the international break coming at a good time.
Celar just needs his first goal, one off the backside as they say.
I just got back and genuinely thought we were ok today. Played some nice stuff.
I hate this 'failed to beat 9 men' narrative already all over the media. We failed to beat 10 men, which is never easy. They had 9 men for one passage of play, come on.
Agree with jrperry1882 that taking Saito off was a mistake. 90% of our attacks then came down the right and it made is too predictable and easier for them to defend against.
But we didn't play badly. We just didn't get that elusive second goal, that's football.
Madsen looked decent and once he adapts to Marti tactics and gets used to his team mates we will hopefully, see a quality player
Varane only came on for 10 minutes but still managed to get booked. Needs to adjust his tackling technique or he will be suspended more than Colback.
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Varane was booked for trying to make their player who got sent off leave the pitch quicker. He nudged him in the back and gestured for him to hurry up and the ref booked him.
I think the team will always struggle whilst the manager is insists that his midfield sets up as a two with three in front.
All of our wide players are better playing from outside to in which, although not a problem in itself, becomes one when you’ve got a number 10 playing in those spaces that the wide players wish to gravitate towards. As such, you become easy to crowd out, lack outlets in wide areas and everything becomes predictable for the defence as the ball is always in front of you. They can push up higher as they know there is no threat of anything dropped behind or anybody extending beyond them. This not only reduces the space for the attacking midfielders to play in, but it also means when they do get that space, it’s further towards our own half than the 18 yard-box.
If you change the midfield to a 4-3-3, asking your centre-midfielders to make runs off the ball, not only do you create extra problems for defences who will seek to stop the third man run, but you will create more space and opportunity for the wingers to come inside and get the ball in positions where the most damage can be caused. Right now, Field and Madsen (today), Varane and Field (Sheff Utd) and Colback and Field (West Brom) have just served as a standard block, and as a result we’ve lost the vertical dimension of our attack that pushes defences back and frees up the attacking midfielders.
If Martí moved to 4-3-3 with one of Colback or Field to the left, the other as the deepest and Madsen to the right and all of a sudden the right and left in centre midfield become runners who can get in the box. We would then, theoretically get Madsen in areas for him to score, but by looking to get beyond the striker, he would also open up space for Dembele to cut inside. Likewise with Field/Colback on the left for Chair, Saito, etc. Field would be more adept at this out of the two. It’d get more support in and around Frey and Celar too which may help their game as well.
I do think, however, the more worrying thing about this game is that the only goal we scored came from a set-piece. Against Plymouth, that should concern us
I’ve also said this elsewhere, but I think the club should move for Josh Coburn of Middlesbrough as Lyndon’s replacement. From what I’ve seen of him over the last two years he’s a better player than the two we’ve currently got, and for someone who doesn’t start games, his goal return is strong.
As harsh as it is These new players may never adapt to the Marti style of play and that’s means lack of winning games No wins equals no points He will be under pressure after 12 games or so as the board have invested money in his project and 9 players and a expensive madsen included need to perform Marti is not invincible and will have to go if we’re in the bottom 3 after a quarter of the season is over in my opinion I really like his passion and style for this club but we’ve not been very good the first 3 games Yes the players hardly know each others names yet but they will need to gel soon
Last Edit: Aug 25, 2024 8:52:28 GMT by singlespeed
So last season Marti came in when we had 8 points from 14 games and somehow saved us. But if we are struggling 3 months into this season we'd want him out? I honestly can't believe what I'm reading.
Even if we got relegated (which will never happen this season) I'd still want Marti in charge.
He's not invisible, nobody is, but even even if we are struggling after a quarter of the season he's earnt a lot more time than that. Especially when we've changed over half his squad and a lot of these players are being given to him now, not all his choices. Any manager would need time to adjust tactics to bed players in and to tweak things to change players.
When did football become so instant result based. We are three games into the season. Three. Three. Three. Three. Not thirty. Three.
Some of these players like Varane and Celar could take months to settle in a new side in a new country (on and off the pitch) and learn the patterns of play and adjust to the tempo. Ale Faurlin is a player we all love, can you remember his first THREE games? No. He didn't create an impression for a few months. Then he settled in London and in The Championship.
We played fine yesterday. 9 times out of 10 we win that game.
We didn't start particulary well under Beale, then were top in October and nearly relegated in May.
You can read next to nothing into the first few games.
So if we’re bottom 3 after 20 games and not beating a average 9 man team like yesterday Not maybe consider changing manager Ok fine Fans on other sites were bloody angry about that result yesterday,I wasn’t one of them by the way I know we are new team needing time to adjust but we’re playing a dangerous game,Birmingham and reading found out that signing loads of players can take you to league one As you say it’s maybe a waiting game a we may come good eventually,Rome wasn’t built in a day,good signs are already there Dembele is excellent and saito is very good too Northwest football fans are inpatient and some QPR fans will worry if we don’t start winning games soon
Last Edit: Aug 25, 2024 9:47:02 GMT by singlespeed
So last season Marti came in when we had 8 points from 14 games and somehow saved us. But if we are struggling 3 months into this season we'd want him out? I honestly can't believe what I'm reading.
Even if we got relegated (which will never happen this season) I'd still want Marti in charge.
He's not invisible, nobody is, but even even if we are struggling after a quarter of the season he's earnt a lot more time than that. Especially when we've changed over half his squad and a lot of these players are being given to him now, not all his choices. Any manager would need time to adjust tactics to bed players in and to tweak things to change players.
When did football become so instant result based. We are three games into the season. Three. Three. Three. Three. Not thirty. Three.
Some of these players like Varane and Celar could take months to settle in a new side in a new country (on and off the pitch) and learn the patterns of play and adjust to the tempo. Ale Faurlin is a player we all love, can you remember his first THREE games? No. He didn't create an impression for a few months. Then he settled in London and in The Championship.
We played fine yesterday. 9 times out of 10 we win that game.
We didn't start particulary well under Beale, then were top in October and nearly relegated in May.
You can read next to nothing into the first few games.
Agree with everything here @northwesthoop.
We absolutely played (very) well yesterday. There's a reason why their keeper was MotM. Without him we win 3-1. So some are judging our excellent manager, and our much improved and still improving team, on the basis of the oppo's extraordinary goalkeeping performance. Shoot me.
We are light years better than the mess we were under Ainsworth. Anyone who says otherwise has a very short term memory, or is supporting the wrong team. Anyone calling for Marti's head needs to examine their own.
Last Edit: Aug 25, 2024 10:11:11 GMT by Rosco Bosco
To start with My comments are all round view I live near London,25 mins from loftus road and I say what is the conversation in my local hang outs is after the games Im fed of people taking me literally and biting my head of on here it’s a forum and freedom of speech You are entitled to say what you want without a backlash from the site owners and others You lot should look back on yourselves during the games and your comments and eat your words The positive is not so much then is it We all want a win it’s not coming any time soon is it,Luton who haven’t won yet will probably get their first win as it’s us they are playing but some in here say we will come good,so let’s just hang on in there,Marti is no genius he’s just better than what we’ve had recently,but he’s a very dedicated coach who gives everything to the club Will agree with one thing the Plymouth goalkeeper was superb yesterday
And rosco Bosco I do get my head examined on a regular basis at the Chalfont epilepsy centre
Last Edit: Aug 25, 2024 10:20:24 GMT by singlespeed
Post by northwesthoop on Aug 25, 2024 10:30:13 GMT
You aren't getting backlash, you are getting a different opinion. I didn't bite your head off, I just detailed why I feel the complete opposite.
If you post such an extreme view (which suggesting Marti is under pressure/could be up for the chop if we don't improve is) then of course you'll get a longer/stronger/counter response.
There's nothing wrong with your post, you can believe and feel what you feel. And you have your reasons.
What we've put back is just our view and is backed up with why.
You can't post something like that and then complain when somebody responds, that is the whole point of the forum surely.
Last Edit: Aug 25, 2024 10:30:46 GMT by northwesthoop