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Swansea v QPR 3 - 0 FT Sept 30, 2018 7:30:27 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Sept 30, 2018 7:30:27 GMT

There appeared to be a real lack of fight in the highlights. For the 2nd and 3rd goals they just walk through us and past players.

Cameron not looking like a man who had 10 days off after ONE match on the 2nd goal, he appeared to have stone boots on as Tom Carroll walked past him.

Luongo guilty of a shocking lack of desire on the 3rd goal (should have pulled the man back, stop the attack or at least run a bit faster and look like you are trying!).

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Swansea v QPR 3 - 0 FT Sept 30, 2018 9:12:25 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 9:12:25 GMT

What we now need is a manager who can get all the players performing at a higher level and playing as a unit. The trouble is that Neil Warnock already has a job and why would he want to come to a work for an owner who has twice let him go anyway!

Totally agree stoatey
Warnock is a genius he just knows how to get a team winning again,it's boring football but you score one or two and that's game won
I agree that our squad is poor but the general attitude and
Negativity around the camp could be a lot more positive,as we showed against millwall we can play better
There is far better than McClaren and his excuses somebody like Gary rowett or Karl Robinson would be a better choice,I fear the worst this season and limited to not improving the squad in January,we look pretty much doomed

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Swansea v QPR 3 - 0 FT Sept 30, 2018 11:17:59 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Sept 30, 2018 11:17:59 GMT

Sept 30, 2018 7:30:27 GMT northwesthoop said:

There appeared to be a real lack of fight in the highlights. For the 2nd and 3rd goals they just walk through us and past players.

Cameron not looking like a man who had 10 days off after ONE match on the 2nd goal, he appeared to have stone boots on as Tom Carroll walked past him.

Luongo guilty of a shocking lack of desire on the 3rd goal (should have pulled the man back, stop the attack or at least run a bit faster and look like you are trying!).

Totally agree about Cameron, he was slow and kept giving the ball away. For such an experienced player he was a total liability.

Another issue yesterday was how poor Freeman and Eze played. At times they looked like two lost boys who were playing in a new set up without any instructions. They created next to nothing and Hemed must have been really frustrated because he got little or no service.

I give Nakhi Wells credit for running around a lot but his shooting accuracy is abysmal, he wouldn't get in my team. For me he is another Conor Washington, someone who works hard but panics in front of goal.

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Swansea v QPR 3 - 0 FT Oct 1, 2018 8:24:09 GMT

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Post by QPRsmith on Oct 1, 2018 8:24:09 GMT

Cant believe how quick i turns into McLaren cant cut it.
We lost a cup game fielding a team of players who where probably on at the manager telling him they deserve to start, he gives them a chance and it turns out they dont deserve it.
For me that game doesnt change my view of this one.
Had we won against blackpool i would still be disappointed with this result but i wouldn't look at the blackpool game for reasons why we didnt win at swansea and vice-versa.

McLaren is a good coach with not much at his disposal, we dont need a new manager who will want to change the squad because we dont have the luxury of changing any of it.
We all knew this season would be ups and downs, good wins and hard defeats. I wish we could put it into perspective before we make snap judgments because of a couple of games.

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Swansea v QPR 3 - 0 FT Oct 1, 2018 9:03:02 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 9:03:02 GMT

Yes we don't have the players
But he makes the decisions on team selection etc
I agree change of manager maybe won't change things but we are in for one hell of a relegation battle and it was to be expected due to January not being a plan B now
We have a team of young inexperienced kids a few has beens who were good once but now through lack of game time like hemed etc just can't produce the goods now
It's tough but we just got to face it if we don't pick up soon we may be looking at the bottom 3 near the end of the season,there is a but and that is everybody is beating anybody this season and that's the strange thing about our league,nobody going to run away with it this season in my opinion

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Swansea v QPR 3 - 0 FT Oct 1, 2018 10:54:30 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Oct 1, 2018 10:54:30 GMT

I was not relishing watching another dire 90 minutes of QPR failure but I have to say that the result does not reflect the way the game was. OK, after goal #2 Swansea could relax and play the ball around, but that was because they had confidence and QPR had pushed forward. In the first 15 minutes QPR more than held their own, and could have been a goal up. So another (deserved) defeat but not as the three goals conceded; so what can you say about it:

I still hold my breath when Eze gets the ball and surges forward, but 10 games into the season his defensive positioning (he never seems to look around for opposition players) and his lack of commitment to defend are areas that need urgent attention if he is to ever become a well-rounded PL player.
Swansea are a possession based side and work the ball out to the wings when chased in the centre. McClaren and his staff must have known this, so why did the select Eze and Freeman as the wide players? When Eze finally moved inside, behind Hemed and Wells, he was far more effective; but it left a gap on the right for Swansea to exploit, and reduced our options out wide.
Freeman was poor, with some bad passes and failed to show the ball skills we know he has; and he continues to either ignore his LB or play him the ball too late. I really feel he cannot continue in the starting 11 and a winger is needed to spread the play.
There has been some stick of Luongo but, having seen the full 90, I felt he was probably the best player on the pitch. He fought hard, usually passed well, and made the most of chances in the goal area (he deserved a goal for one bending shot)
After the first goal there was a distinct lack of confidence and Lynch, Baptiste and Rangel stayed back. This resulted in them fighting to work the ball out (as the midfield players were further away) and created more space in midfield for Swansea to work forward from. We need to push further forward against sides like this and pressure them!
The 'partnership' between Lynch and Baptiste did not work well. I am not sure if that was because they were going for the same ball or because Lynch was so unpredictable, but they were often playing so close together they negated each other.
Positive - Hall came on and did OK again
Positive - Smith came off the bench and actually brought down a difficult ball in midair with a single touch

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Swansea v QPR 3 - 0 FT Oct 1, 2018 20:43:29 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Oct 1, 2018 20:43:29 GMT

Sept 30, 2018 17:31:59 GMT pamment8 said:

When will we wise up about LUONGO HE DOESN'T CARE.

Football is all about opinions and I know you love facts and figures so here are some from www.whoscored.com for Luongo on Saturday:

Touches - 78
Tackles - 4
Shots - 1
Pass Accuracy - 91.4%
Key Passes - 4
Rating - 7.21

The fact he was the only QPR player to get a rating of seven or above probably speaks volumes for our overall efforts on the day and if he doesn't care then we really are in deep doo doo!

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Swansea v QPR 3 - 0 FT Oct 1, 2018 20:58:48 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 20:58:48 GMT

The club like an old car engine needs stripping down and rebuilt properly
We need to stop this continuous attitude if we stay up it's a big achievement,it's just going to go full circle every season
We get a dodgy manager ,we then want him out because as usual we are unhappy with everything they do
The club needs a clear out and starting all over again,why can't we take a relegation and build a team around our youth and come back up a much better club than we are now
Yes it's risky as we may just sit in league one and we're only two leagues of non league,a scary thought hey
But Wigan and Bolton are good examples of how it can be after being in league one
We can then get a manager who knows the league and breed confidence of the players and the fans and not count the empty seats like we are right now
I liked the last time with Ollie in league one it was a brilliant season and a positive one
If anyone can say they've enjoyed the last few seasons then you must have very thick skin

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Swansea v QPR 3 - 0 FT

Post by northwesthoop on Sept 30, 2018 7:30:27 GMT

Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 9:12:25 GMT

Post by stoatey on Sept 30, 2018 11:17:59 GMT

Post by pamment8 on Sept 30, 2018 17:31:59 GMT

Post by QPRsmith on Oct 1, 2018 8:24:09 GMT

Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 9:03:02 GMT

Post by kingfisher on Oct 1, 2018 10:54:30 GMT

Post by stoatey on Oct 1, 2018 20:43:29 GMT

Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 20:58:48 GMT