Not sure that the Stats give you the whole or the real picture. Stats can be used to distort lots of things and I prefer to use them in conjunction with what I have seen on the pitch.
Last season I watched Lynch and having also watched Barbet there isn't a great deal between them. Both players get caught out of position too easily and neither are dominant in the air. Where Barbet does better than Lynch is with his passing and being able to bring the ball out to support the midfield.
IMO Barbet looked a bit of a liability until they teamed him up with Leistner who is defensively better and they seemed to compliment each other. Leistner is more dominant in the air and is best left to defend whereas Barbet is more confident with the ball at his feet. It might be that the reason that Barbet looked so vulnerable was because he was constantly covering for Manning who spends most games in the opposition half and struggles to get back.
I haven't looked at the Stats for the Barbet/Hall, Barbet/Leistner, Hall/Leistner combinations but I would suspect that the Leistner/Barbet figures are the best.
If you just go with a players stats then Pugh would probably come out as our best midfielder and that just isn't the case.
......Last season I watched Lynch and having also watched Barbet there isn't a great deal between them. Both players get caught out of position too easily and neither are dominant in the air. Where Barbet does better than Lynch is with his passing and being able to bring the ball out to support the midfield.
IMO Barbet looked a bit of a liability until they teamed him up with Leistner who is defensively better and they seemed to compliment each other. Leistner is more dominant in the air and is best left to defend whereas Barbet is more confident with the ball at his feet. It might be that the reason that Barbet looked so vulnerable was because he was constantly covering for Manning who spends most games in the opposition half and struggles to get back.
I haven't looked at the Stats for the Barbet/Hall, Barbet/Leistner, Hall/Leistner combinations but I would suspect that the Leistner/Barbet figures are the best.....
Good points re Barbet, especially in regard to him being pulled out of position to support Manning in the past. Can we clone Leistner? I know we are talking about the 2040 season, but we should be thinking far,far ahead as well....
Barbet has been training on the pitch since the start of the week. "He may need an U23 game to get some game time in his legs" as per Warburton so don't expect him to play against Blackburn but he should be back in the mix soon.
He has been missing for over 3 months so has been a big player to lose for that length of time.
Barbet who was sub against Bristol City on Saturday got just over an hour for the U23 team in their 2 -0 win over Coventry yesterday. He could soon be challenging for a first team place.
I hope we get to see him alongside Masterson a few times in the remaining games as that could be our pairing next season.
More likely Masterson will (unduly) lose his place.
You are spot on northwest because Masterson is right footed and will be an ideal replacement for Hall although he has done a good job on the left side.
When we signed him I had a look on the Liverpool player information site and it suggested that he is also able to play in midfield so he could even be a replacement should Cameron leave at the end of the season.
....When we signed him I had a look on the Liverpool player information site and it suggested that he is also able to play in midfield so he could even be a replacement should Cameron leave at the end of the season.
That is an interesting option to throw into the mix! Certainly seems confident when he surges forward with the ball.
I was impressed last night by him, he certainly seemed to make a big difference and the clean sheet speaks volumes.
He is the only player with a win % over 50% at 54%. The next best across the season is Leistner and Pugh on 45%.
He is also the player with the best defeat record, with just 23% of his matches ending in defeat. Of the players still here the next best is Rangel on 36% defeats.
So he is way ahead in both categories, he has been a huge loss. We only won 4 matches in his 4 month absence.
Whilst I don't think any of the incidents last night against Swansea were penalties he does need to stop taking risks but overall it is only a positive to have him back.
He was very good for Brentford And will increase the confidence of the back four hopefully We will need to stop conceding so many as we have no goalscorer at the moment
I was impressed last night by him, he certainly seemed to make a big difference and the clean sheet speaks volumes. He is the only player with a win % over 50% at 54%. The next best across the season is Leistner and Pugh on 45%. He is also the player with the best defeat record, with just 23% of his matches ending in defeat. Of the players still here the next best is Rangel on 36% defeats. So he is way ahead in both categories, he has been a huge loss. We only won 4 matches in his 4 month absence.
Whilst I don't think any of the incidents last night against Swansea were penalties he does need to stop taking risks but overall it is only a positive to have him back.
Barbet did well last night as did Hall but whether that was because of their good play or the blunt Swansea attack I'm not sure. Probably down to a combination of good play and the Swansea forward line having a poor night.
You have to be careful when looking at Barbet's stats however, because if we are to believe what the statistics show us then we have got rid of two of our best players in Malkar who the stats suggest is our best striker with a 50% win rate and Scowen who was our 2nd best defensive player with a loss record of 27.8%. If used on their own then stats can be misleading.
I tend to only look at players who started a lot of games or have made 'x' amount of appearances.
The stat that we lose less with Barbet, Rangel and Cameron than their counterparts does indicate they are key players.
Totally agree with you on that point northwesthoop because unless you are basing the figures on a minimum number of games any statistical analysis becomes totally useless and skews any final figures.