Derby Vs QPR

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Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 16:01:23 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Nov 30, 2019 16:01:23 GMT

We have looked the slightly better team with lots of shots (although most have been off target) and plenty of possession. Shame we conceded but it was a good free kick from Waghorn. BOS has been causing problems and won us the penalty from a rash Waghorn challenge.

stoatey Gerry Francis Posts: 8,624	Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 16:56:54 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by stoatey on Nov 30, 2019 16:56:54 GMT All over. 1 - 1, well deserved point.
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LurkR Paul Furlong Posts: 1,235	Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 17:04:06 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by LurkR on Nov 30, 2019 17:04:06 GMT Good result

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Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 17:20:57 GMT

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Nov 30, 2019 14:21:12 GMT northwesthoop said:

5 changes and Pugh and BOS are given a chance. We also revert to 4-2-3-1.

Hugill replaces Wells, Rangel over Kane, Cameron in for Ball:

Lumley
Rangel Leistner Hall Manning
Cameron Amos
Pugh Eze BOS
Hugill

Anyone see the game?

Is this the formation that they did use? It makes sense if it was, with BOS and Pugh offering width but also able to move through the middle to support Eze (as the 'dropped ten') and Hugill (the holding player). I was driving back home from the West Country and unable to monitor progress as I was driving (and my missus cannot handle technology); but I also did not expect much from this fixture. That we got a draw after some disappointing results is a good result!

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Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 17:23:40 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Nov 30, 2019 17:23:40 GMT

A very solid result. A shame we still clock up 7 without a win but at least we didn't concede 2 again! That run stopped at 10 games.

We played well, BOS gives us a threat and scares teams by running at players like none of our other players can.

It is something to build on and it should stop some of the 'we are in a relegation fight' and 'Warburton out' OTT stuff filling twitter and elsewhere this week.

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jimjams Terry Fenwick Posts: 2,392	Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 18:05:18 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jimjams on Nov 30, 2019 18:05:18 GMT Finally! Great result and good to see Wharburton finally listening to me!! We set up not to lose, we could have easily nicked a win but can be happy with a well earned point away. See!? Not that hard was it?

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Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 18:06:08 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Nov 30, 2019 18:06:08 GMT

Nov 30, 2019 17:20:57 GMT kingfisher said:

Nov 30, 2019 14:21:12 GMT northwesthoop said:

5 changes and Pugh and BOS are given a chance. We also revert to 4-2-3-1.

Hugill replaces Wells, Rangel over Kane, Cameron in for Ball:

Lumley
Rangel Leistner Hall Manning
Cameron Amos
Pugh Eze BOS
Hugill

Anyone see the game?

Is this the formation that they did use? It makes sense if it was, with BOS and Pugh offering width but also able to move through the middle to support Eze (as the 'dropped ten') and Hugill (the holding player). I was driving back home from the West Country and unable to monitor progress as I was driving (and my missus cannot handle technology); but I also did not expect much from this fixture. That we got a draw after some disappointing results is a good result!

I was trying to watch but that was only when my grandson would allow me.

We set up in a 4-5-1 formation, that looked quite solid. In the first half I thought we were slightly the better team. Lumley had no real chance with the free kick that went in and had previously pulled off a good save. BOS caused lots of problems to Derby and looked a real threat in that first half. The penalty BOS won was from some poor defending by Derby but it proved we are not the only team that can't defend at times. It was right on half time and we deserved to be level going into the break because we had some good chances although most seemed to go wide of the goal.

In the second half Derby had a couple of decent chances and we only had a few half chances. It wasn't a great game to watch and I kept thinking that Derby would get a second from some freakish mistake but it didn't happen. Overall a draw was a fair result and Lumley and the defence did well.

Despite giving away the Derby freekick for the goal Amos did ok before being replaced by Scowen and overall it was a good team performance after the Forest shambles.

As an aside I should mention that I was down West last Sunday and pulled into Sedgemoor Services where I saw a BMW with a QPR crested number plate and the registration B1 OPR. Nice to know we have fans all over the country.

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Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 18:46:03 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2019 18:46:03 GMT A good result to build on Not a easy place to go and get a result either A surprise point if I’m honest but a good point Just need that elusive win to get back on track

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Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 22:53:24 GMT

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Post by ranger-boy on Nov 30, 2019 22:53:24 GMT

Overall that was a fun day out and a good game to watch. It’s amazing how poor Derby looked for long spells too!

An absolutely superb free kick from Waghorn for their goal, but we responded well and fully deserved to go in level. Another penalty from Eze, so he’s 3 for 3 this season so far.

Joe Lumley got one of the best receptions I’ve heard him get all season at full time today, and he looked so appreciative of it. As much as we want the team to be perfect, they will make mistakes and we need to back them as fans in order for them to improve. Hopefully the twitter trolls will depart somewhere else for the week!

Hopefully the defence will take a lot of positives from not conceding twice today, and can push on to finally get that first clean sheet & help us get back so winning ways in the upcoming games!

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Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 23:07:08 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Nov 30, 2019 23:07:08 GMT

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For only the second time this season we stay in the same position from one match to the next, remaining in 16th position.

We scored at Pride Park for the first time since 2010.

We have of course finally broken the curse of conceding 2 goals in every game, ending a run that stretched to 10 games and equalled a club record standing for 7 decades. Thankfully it never got to 11 games to set an outright record, but we did still concede so we have still not kept a clean sheet in 19 league games and 21 games in all competitions.

Only Luton and Barnsley have conceded more than our 37 goals.

The goals have somewhat dried up at the other end too - we have only scored 5 goals in the last 6 games.

We are still 7 games without a win and have only picked up 3 points from the last 21 available.

Every time we have drawn this season we have lost the next match so that does not bode well for next week!

Last season after 19 games we were 9th so we have now slipped quite some way behind that standard.

Ilias Chair didn't appear in a league match for the first time since the opening day.

The recent poor run means we now only have 2 players who have win records above 50% - Yoann Barbet and Marc Pugh (this ignores Shodipo who only appeared once on the opening day)

Marc Pugh started only his second league game for the club - his last start was against Wigan in August.

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northwesthoop Stan Bowles @admin Posts: 12,645 Member is Online	Derby Vs QPR Nov 30, 2019 23:18:48 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by northwesthoop on Nov 30, 2019 23:18:48 GMT
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LurkR Paul Furlong Posts: 1,235	Derby Vs QPR Dec 1, 2019 17:53:49 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by LurkR on Dec 1, 2019 17:53:49 GMT Nov 30, 2019 22:53:24 GMT ranger-boy said: Joe Lumley got one of the best receptions I’ve heard him get all season at full time today, and he looked so appreciative of it.! Good to hear

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Derby Vs QPR Dec 1, 2019 20:21:43 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Dec 1, 2019 20:21:43 GMT

Dec 1, 2019 17:53:49 GMT LurkR said:

Nov 30, 2019 22:53:24 GMT ranger-boy said:

Joe Lumley got one of the best receptions I’ve heard him get all season at full time today, and he looked so appreciative of it.!

Good to hear

It really is good to hear because whilst Lumley has made a couple of mistakes the fans know that he is a decent goalkeeper who has gone through a period where his confidence has been low. Everyone of the team has made mistakes but unfortunately Lumleys are highlighted.

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Derby Vs QPR Dec 2, 2019 22:07:48 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Dec 2, 2019 22:07:48 GMT

Well I have sat down and watched the full 90 minutes and have to say it was end-to-end stuff at times. A few points:

Derby have a phenomenal home record, so to even draw there was a big result.
Without Barbet it was left to Amos to make the rash challenge in a dangerous position, and we paid for it with Waghorn's excellent free kick. Have to say though that only one player in the wall made a decent jump to assist Lumley.... I do like Amos but he does keep making rash challenges. in many ways he reminds me of Dele Alli, where emotion sometimes gets the better of common sense in his commitment as he works hard in midfield.
Osayi-Samuel played well, getting under the skin of the Derby defenders which is what Warburton would have wanted (even if his yellow card foul was unnecessary). OK his positioning when out of possession is still not that good, but I thought his tracking back to assist the defenders was great.
Yet another Championship referee who lets far too much go by him. For example, just before Half Time, Amos got the ball in our half and Lawrence was (rightly) adjudged to have held onto his shirt to prevent him moving, but (wrongly) Lawrence was not given a yellow card for a deliberate foul. Then there was in the second half a clear push on Eze in the penalty area that was ignored. However the referee did award what felt like a soft penalty at the end of the first half, so perhaps these things do eventually even themselves out!
Both teams tried to retain possession, with QPR the better at it, and both sides were equally dangerous on the break. Taking both those statements into account, our defence was good in this game at much of the defending and quickly recycled balls. It is hard to believe this was a side that had been beaten so comprehensively such a short time ago and on a bad run.
I was impressed by Pugh's efforts at the front of the 4-4-2 formation. He covered a lot of ground and it was no surprise he eventually went off for Wells as he must have been knackered!
Other subs: It was only a 'like for like' at 71 minutes as a tiring Amos was replaced by Scowen. So both substitutions looked sound.
It must be murder trying to pass the ball around if you are a Derby player! The slightest hint of passing back to safety and they are heckling their own side...
Does anyone else feel that Hall is still not as good at CB defending as he was, or is it just that next to Lynch-gate anyone else looks great?
Like many others I have been critical of Lumley's ball control, but today he looked a lot more relaxed and that probably allowed him to focus more upon making some fine saves!
Finally, a draw was a fair result, and for a team that has been on a bad run that must feel like a victory!

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