I've supported this team ever since my first match in 1968. But right now my enthusiasm is pretty low. I've seen low patches and relegations before and I absolutely buy into what the club is trying to do now. Yet I can feel my interest dropping and my frustration increasing.
It might be that we're not very good. It might be that we're doing the right thing while the rest of the league seems to be breaking the rules and getting away with it. It might be that the game is increasingly about money and we don't have any. It might be that it is all about the Premier League. It might that everything is designed to stop smaller clubs competing.
I hate the fact that selling our best player to Crystal Palace is survival money for us but peanuts for them. And I can't see how or when that will change.
Or it might just be that I'm getting old and grumpy.
I would say my enthusiasm is higher than yours sounds Ghost, but all of what you have said resonates with me. Our club got (rightly) punished for breaking the rules but other clubs seem to be flouting the rules with impunity (someone please tell me I am wrong). That is frustrating! That leads to my biggest frustration: we are a club that has been stuck in the middle of the Championship table now for years. I really like what Warburton is trying to achieve with the dosh and talent he has, but I want to see progression up that table too. Could be worse though Ghost - we could be supporting a team playing boring, physical footer!
Post by northwesthoop on Nov 11, 2020 12:20:16 GMT
My enthusiasm hasn't waned, but I can understand why it has for many fans.
Not being able to attend and QPR seemingly just treading water season after season doesn't help.
QPR have never, ever spent more than 7 seasons in a row in the second tier. This is our 6th season, next season already looks odd on to be our 7th. This is almost unchartered territory for QPR fans. We usually go up or down before too long.
We need something to get out teeth into. Even if that is relegation followed by a promotion push. The aim can't just be to keep afloat in the second tier forevermore?
I hate that by March our season is dead rubbers. We lose and it doesn't really have any impact, we win and we stay 16th. We have to start to aspire for more than that at some stage.
We got relegated from the top flight at precisely the wrong time when money was flooding in. We blew our chance and now we are paying the price long term. Both on the pitch and with the enthusiasm of a lot of supporters, not just you Ghost.
My little boy is due to hit key years soon when I desperately want him to support QPR, but it won't be easy to get him to sign up for 1 win a month and being happy with 16th every season. Not in this era.
I used to get all anxious on match days and hoping my team wins It always felt great after a win especially saturday evenings But this season and end of last season i just dont feel that bothered at the moment no crowds is a big factor but football in general is a crowd influenced game like darts is we are simply a bottom 10 championship team that wins once in a while it wouldnt make much difference if we were in league one as it will be just as boring dont come on here much now as i feel low with this covid crap going on and generally fed up you lot a nice bunch of guys but i simply cant get into this season to talk that much really
I can fully understand what you are saying Ghost because I feel very similer. As QPR fans we fully understand that the ride will be a roller coaster and we will have some of the highest highs followed by some of the lowest lows but there has always seemed to be light at the end of the tunnel.
However, for me ever since TF and RG took over the club my enthusiasm has totally wained. These 2 guys have totally mismanaged the club and rival Donald Trump for fake news and propaganda. What doesnt help is that neither of them provides the leadership or inspiration that a successful club needs and the future of the club look very bleak with these 2 at the helm.
Ghost I think all of your reasons are probably adding to your current feeling but I think SingleSpeed raises the biggest reason for me, and thats the whole covid set up, I think most people are currently lacking in enthusiasm across the board I know from a work point of view I'm not as engaged as I normally am and even down to watching telly or reading a book I'm a bit less bothered than usual...
Staotey I know you dont like the current set up but surely they are better than the two before them?
Ghost I think all of your reasons are probably adding to your current feeling but I think SingleSpeed raises the biggest reason for me, and thats the whole covid set up, I think most people are currently lacking in enthusiasm across the board I know from a work point of view I'm not as engaged as I normally am and even down to watching telly or reading a book I'm a bit less bothered than usual...
Staotey I know you dont like the current set up but surely they are better than the two before them?
Based on who was the most successful then there is only one set of winners.
When Flavio and Bernie took over in 2007/8 we had just avoided relegation from the Championship and we were £20m in debt. By the time they left in August 2011 and sold the club to TF and RG we were a Premiership club with our debts paid off and forecast income of c.£100m.
Here we are 9 years later back in the Championship with no money and just avoiding relegation because TF and RG have mismanaged our club. They did such a disastrous job that they are now rarely seen at the club and have left the representives of the junior partner to run the show.
Bernie and Flavio had their 4 year plan and it was achieved. TF and RG have had 9 years and spent all our riches, got us relegated twice, given us nothing but propoganda, smoke and mirrors.
I suppose it depends on the clubs goals but if the aim is to be a Premiership team on a financially secure footing then surely, you would agree that Flavio and Bernie were far better than TF and RG?
I get your point and can not argue with the achievements. But didn’t they rip the soul out of the club and not give a toss about the fans, as someone that doesn’t go to many games I guess that shouldn’t bother me but listening to the open all Rs Podcast and speaking to my friends that were season ticket holders it’s sounds like it was not the best of times.
Anyway this probably deserves its own thread rather than hijacking Ghosts (sorry my fault for asking the question).
I've supported this team ever since my first match in 1968. But right now my enthusiasm is pretty low. I've seen low patches and relegations before and I absolutely buy into what the club is trying to do now. Yet I can feel my interest dropping and my frustration increasing.
It might be that we're not very good. It might be that we're doing the right thing while the rest of the league seems to be breaking the rules and getting away with it. It might be that the game is increasingly about money and we don't have any. It might be that it is all about the Premier League. It might that everything is designed to stop smaller clubs competing.
I hate the fact that selling our best player to Crystal Palace is survival money for us but peanuts for them. And I can't see how or when that will change.
Or it might just be that I'm getting old and grumpy.
Does anyone else feel the same?
Love the club as much as ever, still get excited and nervous at every game and live in hope that we will once again be competing in the Prem. For me its just another low point but the green shoots of recovery are there to us becoming sustainable. It not unusual for us to sell our best players, thats pretty much been the QPR way since I started supporting them over 40 years ago and will be the way forward for the foreseeable.
The money thing isnt going to change so its about us having to do what we can to survive. Can you imagine a life without QPR.
Have always been and will always be QPR and I will take the low points as it makes the high points so much sweeter. Chin up mate, its just another low before a high.