The Relegation Fight

I agree, I do like Dykes

Problem is he's like Zlatan for Scotland and Sammy Koejoe for QPR.

in answer to the point made about MW being out of his depth at championship level.......do you not remember the job he did for little Brentford? hes made them (and it pains me to say this) a powerhouse in the championship they play such good football and i dread playing them.

he got the ball rolling and it takes a lot for Glasgow Rangers to notice managers of his ilk he knows how to play football the right way but i just think hes been unlucky with the Bonne and Dykes signings maybe Dykes will become good i really hope he does but i have my doubts at the moment. Bonne was a very strange signing in my opinion his worse as yet when we first heard we were getting him in i thought? who is he? gave him the chance but seen nothing with the exception of the headed winner away at Derby but that was all down to Rob Dickies superb pass lets be honest.

Rob Dickie is proof MW knows what hes doing hes found him from nowhere and he will be a great player hopefully with us a long time

the likes of Ball and Willock are and were signed as squad utility players but have found themselves in the trenches far more than MW would have hoped with injuries to Amos and now Tom Carroll Willock was only ever signed as cover for BOS and uncle Albert so lets not judge MW with that 1, Ball is a charachter for the dressing room that MW has worked with many times before and you can tell MW gets Ball to play above his ability. i think he was signed originally as centre back cover that can slot into fullback and holding midfield was also signed to possibly play in a back 3 nobody thought he would get this many games as quick as he has in 2 seasons (in simple terms he was CHEAP like the budgie)

now to my best left back since Clive Wilson remark tell me one decent left back weve had since Clive Wilson apart from Manning im struggling....... ..........................................................................................................................after a while of thinkage i can think of 3  Gino Padula (great at going forward terrible defender when we stepped up to championship he wasnt around long after) Ian Barraclough (just liked the man never really put a foot wrong but was nowhere near as dangerous attacking) and Taiwo (i cant remember his first name but he played in top flight for us and i really wanted him to stay on when we survived the drop in Joey Bartons Look at me im a Skitzo game  against Man City) IMHO manning is better than them all with maybe the exception of Taiwo who was just a loan.

if you can come up with a better left back than Clive Wilson let me know because for decades weve had very few good ones

tell me a right back weve had better than David Bardsley too (Kyle Walker is obvious the standout choice but i struggle to rank loans.....) weve had many a good centre back many a midfielder many a keeper many a striker and many many a winger

 but for some reason weve never really had good fullbacks not since Clive Wilson and David Bardsley left anyway

even before them 2 signed we didnt really have great fullbacks Warren Neil hardly great, Justin Channing ( a poor mans Kakay) .....left backs i liked Mark Dennis (but he liked the young girls and a drink with a sniff of billy so on he went to Palace) Ian Dawes (great on the plastic but not so great on the grass hence a millwall departure and he was about 5ft 2) Kenny Sansom (still managed to play decent level for us even at the grand old age of 55 when we signed him.....but lets face it only came back to london in swap deal with Fereday because he prolly hated it in newcastle) Rufus Brevett (left us after Clive left and he wudda got back in the side hadnt he left for lower league Fulham under keegan the judas....funny enuff Clive Wilson who was signed from chelscum as a midfielder / winger took the place of young Rufus at left back)

My sentiments too kensalr! Also have to agree with stoatey on his point below:

What matters now though is the squad pulling together and working as a unit to win games. As northwesthoop has stated, we have a tough schedule of games for the next weeks so we may have to wait for a decent run of victories, but I believe they will come! Sadly none of us can be there to help them achieve better!

In response to Clint Hill being our best left back since Clive Wilson (great charachter and would bleed for the club........great great pro but great left back? he hardly got a game for majority of his time at club apart from the championship winning season and when he did play there were groans all over the shop floor) IMO Hill was a centre back and far better at that position than full back.

Bidwell was as popular as the plague when he played for QPR in the crowd i thought he was ok at best

Furlong yes doing well now but his time at QPR he was average and nobody really cared when he left for pastures new just like nobody cared when Bidwell left

Manning when he plays is at times an attacking genius and a real pain in the oppos behind like an extra winger when he and BOS both played on same flank nobody knew what to do with him (yes he struggled at times to defend but he was after all just a work in process and he could have improved in time but no we sold him for peanuts so we never got to see finished article

and yes these are just opinions and its great to see different ones


however mine are correct

"he hardly got a game for the majority of his time at the club".... erm, what? He played 170+ games including over 70 at the very highest level.

He got player of the year when we were in the Premier League!

He was superb as left back in that Championship winning season (where he played all season). He also played left back a fair few times in the 2013/14 play off winning season - including in the play off final.

He won 2 promotions. He captained the side to a win at Wembley (playing at left back I repeat)

Club legend. He did play between two positions, but he most definitely has to be considered in any left back discussion.

Couldn't agree more, northwesthoop. 

im stating facts about Clint Hill nobody is saying he wasnt popular as he was but to say he was a great left back is delusional he was a charachter that helped run the dressing room like Sean Derry and when i say he hardly got a game for spells of his career with us he hardly got a game when we got promoted in play off final it was a rare outing for him that season age wasnt on his side. although a great servant to our club since 1984 to say Clint Hill was the 2nd best ever Left back QPR have had is bizzare.

in me saying that Ryan Manning although at times going forward was great i did sometimes forget his lack of positional sense LOL

Bidwell whilst at QPR everytime he got the ball the crowd were saying things like dont give the ball to Bidwell he will lose it When Manning got the ball all i heard from the crowd was "go on Manning" and there was anticipation of something happening this is whilst these 2 were at our club.....it dont matter if Bidwell is keeping out Manning at swansea thats irrelevant it is my opinion that Manning was better for us than blth Clint Hill and most definatley Bidwell.

when manning was at full pelt he was causing havoc most games in a great little spell and at times yes he looked an attacking genius he had that little bit extra that directness that had the oppo worried sick.....us letting him go the time we did was bad timing and i really do believe we made aright clanger.....in the season we had Eze, Hugill, Wells, BOS and Chair manning was an extra cog in an squad that could easily have got us into play off promotion contention

Furlong or Bidwell or Kane and Nicco .........correct would have chose Furlong Bidwell but Furlong Manning would have been even better but the Furlong that left us was not the Furlong now that u see playing for West Brom...........and there were more groans when Manning left us than Bidwell leaving.

and im not being told i know nothing about our club i may just be having a different opinion about a certain left back that you havent witnessed but then again i do have a past of being paid to play football many years ago so may see something that some of you dont