Really impressive interview and it strengthens the belief that the team is still united in pushing hard to win each game. Charlie had better watch out - Illias could easily become a pundit!
my lawyer asked me to address Mr NorthWestHoop with this statement
"Ive always liked MW and the way he gets the team to play however its been very difficult to see the past few results and us slip out the frame...like said previously by myself in previous threads just one or 2 wins from some of the previous home games for example Cardiff, Peterbrough we wouldnt be in this predicament"
" i will however begrudingly possibly say not that i want to......he may possibly not have lost the dressing room.......possibly"
"4 points in 2 games and the door is opening slightly even 2 draws from the 5 losses would have me convinced we would have made it"
Fight. Never giving up. Last minute and we are still trying.
He's a good manager.
He was a good manager your right NorthWest your right he was during the majority of his time with us
its easy to say this after a 1-0 win against an already doomed Derby
MWs words "We won ugly they were the better team 2nd half"
you say he hasnt lost the dressing room
he did during that huge 5 losses in a row spell....and the very lucky win at Luton lets also lets not forget we havent been playing well all year 2022 really the results we did get most of them were won unconvincing
i still think he should go
only thing thats saves him for me is somehow getting into that final play off position or just missing out on them ......but the next 3 games we improve massivley on the showings of the last 2 months.......not counting the last 2 games that is which have been improvements but what was seen before these 2 results would have been very hard not to.
In moving on to 63 points QPR now have more points than we've managed in 8 of the last 10 seasons.
63 points is more than our total in 14 of the last 17 seasons since our promotion back to this level in 2004
Sack the manager 🤔
We really need some context of where QPR have been when we judge this season.
Watch the podcast when it comes out everyone and then judge whether he can cope, whether he feels responsible, and also whether some performances baffle even him! He was as personable as always and never held back on an answer - even when we discussed refs!!
I’ve not seen the MW podcast yet but when kingfisher said he seemed very relaxed it made me think…while we’re all sat around debating whether he should be fired or not there’s always the chance he might not even want to continue with us!
Have you considered that there may be another championship club with a more appealing offer and better squad/bigger budget who may want him!?
I’ve not seen the MW podcast yet but when kingfisher said he seemed very relaxed it made me think…while we’re all sat around debating whether he should be fired or not there’s always the chance he might not even want to continue with us!
Have you considered that there may be another championship club with a more appealing offer and better squad/bigger budget who may want him!?
Just a thought
Good point jimjams! I did ask him whether he was still ambitious (given he had already left a successful career to pursue a love of football), and he assured me he was still ambitious, considering a PL or international role in that manner. Personally, I think he would do well in the right PL club (given time) but even better in Portugal, Spain or perhaps Italy (where his style of football would be allowed more funds and patience).
I’ve not seen the MW podcast yet but when kingfisher said he seemed very relaxed it made me think…while we’re all sat around debating whether he should be fired or not there’s always the chance he might not even want to continue with us!
Have you considered that there may be another championship club with a more appealing offer and better squad/bigger budget who may want him!?
Just a thought
Good point jimjams ! I did ask him whether he was still ambitious (given he had already left a successful career to pursue a love of football), and he assured me he was still ambitious, considering a PL or international role in that manner. Personally, I think he would do well in the right PL club (given time) but even better in Portugal, Spain or perhaps Italy (where his style of football would be allowed more funds and patience).
I think if he had a choice it would be to manage Spurs.
Post by northwesthoop on Apr 24, 2022 12:12:16 GMT
It is a funny old game...
12 months ago after 44 games QPR were 10th in the table on 62 points
Today QPR sit in that very same 10th position but 1 point better off on 63 points
I've had a look back and this time last year we were (mostly) all lauding Warburton. Now his job is in doubt despite us being in pretty much the same position.
Did expectations get out of hand? Why are we viewing things so differently?
Expectations were all based on the way we finished last season and I believe that the fans were right to be excited. Lets not forget that in October 2020 we were looking a poor team who were struggling in the bottom half of the Championship with a manager whose tactics were at best, strange. It didn't help that Warburton's signings earlier that season either looked out of their depth or preferred the warmth of the injury room.
Then in that October the stars started to align when life long QPR fan Albert Adomah signed followed a couple of months later by a club hero in Charlie Austin on loan. Albert and Charlie were quickly joined by the loan signings of Stefan Johansen, Jordy de Wijs and Sam Field . As a result of those signings we now started to look a different team. Charlie seemed to give Dykes some much needed confidence by constantly talking to him and telling him where to run. Stefan injected some leadership into a team that lacked any inspiration.and de Wijs helped bolster a very shaky defence. Unfortunately for Sam Fiield we only saw glimpses of how good he could be as he picked up an injury and Albert spent lots of timd on the bench. The form that we showed after making those signings sent us surging up the league and was comparable with teams challenging for promotion.
I think that every QPR fan had to be excited by the teams prospects at the start of 2021/22 because in addition to signing the four loan players we also had the additions of Dunne, Dozzell and Odubajo plus the loan signings of Andre Gray and Sam McCallum. What nobody could predict was that despite starting the season well the form and confidence of our 2 main leaders Charlie Austin and Stefan Johansen was lacking. It didn't matter too much though because Chris Willock and Illias Chair were sparkling, and Rob Dickie was doing what Charlie and the strikers couldn't by seeming to score on a regular basis.
So where did it all go t*ts up, I dont think it was the loss of Dieng and Chair to AFCON because during the period they were away we still played well. The injuries to Dieng and the other keepers certainly didn't help and the the loss of Dickie certainly upset the defence. The 2 key factors for me were the loss of Chris Willock who was made Illias Chair and the rest of the team tick plus the decision to sign Sanderson and Hendiricks.
The loss of Willock was huge because he had been a revelation this season. Whilst we all thought he had looked good in glimpses last season he seemed much more settled this year and developed a real understanding with Chair. Despite most of us thinking we needed to strengthen our wing back positions and get a goal scorer that wasn't the thought of manager Warburton who had publicly said he wanted to sign another central defender.This he did by promptly signing Dion Sanderson on loan from Wolves. Initially I thought he was signing Sanderson because Jordy de Wijs who had been injured was going to be out for the foreseeable future. That wasn't the case because he then sent de Wijs out on loan to Fortuna Dusseldorf were he's been an ever present. Only Warburton will know the reason he thought we should sign Sanderson because although he's got some pace he has been a let down and his inexperience has been a liability. Warburton's other signing, midfielder Jeff Hendrick IMO was his biggest mistake. We already had more than enough midfielders and if you wanted to cause discontent then bring in another who you insist on playing despite them adding nothing to the team. Both Sanderson and Hendricks seemed to be getting into our team even when their performances didn't seem to warrant a place and I believe that has caused upset amongst some of other players. We have even seen Warburton play Sanderson out of position rather than use one of our own players in his natural position.
To have lost so many key players to injury has to have had an adverse effect but ultimately I think the reason everything went wrong was Warburton's decision to sign 2 players we didn't need whilst not signing players we did need.
All of this is now in the past and we need to start looking forward to next season and sorting out the contracts for those we want to stay and start planning to get in replacements for those who are moving on.
A good analysis (as ever) above stoatey! In regard to preferring to bring in Sanderson a farm out De Wijs, I can only think it was a question of having a faster CB on the pitch (as compared to all of the others). He has not been anything more than a qualified success, and that may be being generous. Having Barbet injured for a while, and Dickie long-term, showed how lean we were in terms of quality at the back. Kakay is not the back-up person we need either. In regard to Willock & Chair, I totally agree the key this season was Willock (as proved when Chair went on AFCON duty), and his subsequent long-term injury hurt out prospects a lot. Not getting in a decent wing-back (with McCallum & Wallace out with long-term injuries) was certainly not what MW wanted (and he was lucky Uncle Albert adapted so well), but bringing in Hendricks instead was a puzzle (unless Johansen had already been identified as carrying a long-term injury?). So far we have only talked about defenders and midfielders, but the bottom line is simple: If the strikers had scored as well as the AM and defenders, we would have won far more games! The contribution of Gray and Austin, in particular, has been sadly really poor! That is the area that needs to be addressed as a priority at the end of the season. Perhaps Kelman alongside Dykes may work as a fallback option, but I do feel we need a League One striker hungry to prove themselves.
Post by northwesthoop on Apr 25, 2022 12:27:27 GMT
We were already struggling before Willock got injured, but that didn't help a situation already turning sour.
The goalkeeper situation definitely lost its numerous points as we highlighted previously.
I think something that hasn't been highlighted as much is "we got found out". This definitely played a big role for me. In 2021 we were always scoring, always on the front foot, full backs in the opposition area, centre backs (Dickie especially) bursting forward and creating side space for others etc... In the last 2/3 months we seem to spend the majority of our time with the ball going between the goalkeeper and defenders. Teams have stopped us playing.
The other factors stoatey and kingfisher point too add to it (especially the very poor loans) and the overall result is a nightmare spell.
Great summary stoatey At the end of the day there were some bad decisions and a lot of bad luck that derailed us
I don't suppose it's much consolation but its not like we're alone...I bet Blackburn's and Middlesbrough's fans are pretty down beat considering where they were 6 weeks ago
This is why its so damn hard to get out of this division... you need everything to go for you just to make the playoffs and once you get there only one team is going up via the playoffs.
