QPR Vs Luton - 29 December

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Dec 30, 2022 21:50:33 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Dec 30, 2022 21:50:33 GMT

Dec 30, 2022 10:56:13 GMT northwesthoop said:

I don't think Richards will be going anywhere as we are obliged to buy him if we don't get relegated

I'm really hoping that isn't the case because he would be a huge mistake and a total waste of money. I know our owners have frittered away huge amounts on under performing players previously but I'd have thought they would have learnt their lesson. I saw a figure of £4.5m being mentioned for Roberts which is ridiculous unless they are paying that to us !

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that both Richards and Roberts were only signed with options to buy and at the end of the season we can say thanks but their not for us. If that isn't the case and we have made a commitment to sign them then I'd imagine that's our transfer budget spent for at least the next 5 years.

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Dec 30, 2022 22:46:23 GMT via mobile

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Post by northwesthoop on Dec 30, 2022 22:46:23 GMT

Dec 30, 2022 21:50:33 GMT stoatey said:

Dec 30, 2022 10:56:13 GMT northwesthoop said:

I don't think Richards will be going anywhere as we are obliged to buy him if we don't get relegated

I'm really hoping that isn't the case because he would be a huge mistake and a total waste of money. I know our owners have frittered away huge amounts on under performing players previously but I'd have thought they would have learnt their lesson. I saw a figure of £4.5m being mentioned for Roberts which is ridiculous unless they are paying that to us !

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that both Richards and Roberts were only signed with options to buy and at the end of the season we can say thanks but their not for us. If that isn't the case and we have made a commitment to sign them then I'd imagine that's our transfer budget spent for at least the next 5 years.

Richards we have to sign if we stay at this level.

Roberts we have to buy for £4.5 million but only if we get promoted (so I think we will dodge that bullet!).

Both are cases of the club trying to move fees down the line to try and avoid FFP this season.

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Dec 31, 2022 9:52:41 GMT via mobile

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Post by Ghost on Dec 31, 2022 9:52:41 GMT

That’s what I understood about Roberts and Richards too. We’re half way through the season and neither of them looks worth their place in the squad and certainly not the starting 11. We can only hope that the requirement to buy Richards is only triggered by a number of appearances that he doesn’t reach.

I wonder if we were expecting to sell Willock and identified Richards as his replacement. If so, that really hasn’t gone to plan!

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Dec 31, 2022 9:54:28 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Dec 31, 2022 9:54:28 GMT

Dec 30, 2022 22:46:23 GMT northwesthoop said:

Dec 30, 2022 21:50:33 GMT stoatey said:

I'm really hoping that isn't the case because he would be a huge mistake and a total waste of money. I know our owners have frittered away huge amounts on under performing players previously but I'd have thought they would have learnt their lesson. I saw a figure of £4.5m being mentioned for Roberts which is ridiculous unless they are paying that to us !

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that both Richards and Roberts were only signed with options to buy and at the end of the season we can say thanks but their not for us. If that isn't the case and we have made a commitment to sign them then I'd imagine that's our transfer budget spent for at least the next 5 years.

Richards we have to sign if we stay at this level.

Roberts we have to buy for £4.5 million but only if we get promoted (so I think we will dodge that bullet!).

Both are cases of the club trying to move fees down the line to try and avoid FFP this season.

Of the two I would prefer to keep Richards, but I have seen so little promise from him that I cannot but feel we were being mugged..... Tyler Roberts is different in that he cannot play as a sole striker and cannot seem to combine with Dykes as a 'dynamic duo'. If he cannot achieve either of the roles he was brought in to do then he needs to go ASAP to allow someone else a chance on the wage bill.

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Dec 31, 2022 17:35:57 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Dec 31, 2022 17:35:57 GMT

Dec 31, 2022 9:54:28 GMT kingfisher said:

Dec 30, 2022 22:46:23 GMT northwesthoop said:

Richards we have to sign if we stay at this level.

Roberts we have to buy for £4.5 million but only if we get promoted (so I think we will dodge that bullet!).

Both are cases of the club trying to move fees down the line to try and avoid FFP this season.

Of the two I would prefer to keep Richards, but I have seen so little promise from him that I cannot but feel we were being mugged..... Tyler Roberts is different in that he cannot play as a sole striker and cannot seem to combine with Dykes as a 'dynamic duo'. If he cannot achieve either of the roles he was brought in to do then he needs to go ASAP to allow someone else a chance on the wage bill.

I never realised that when we took Richards on loan that we had to buy him, I honestly thought it was just a season long loan. I have never been a fan of our owners or the way they have financially managed the club but this seems an even more crackpot decision than some of their other decisions.

Do you know what price they've agreed to pay Brighton?

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Dec 31, 2022 17:58:29 GMT via mobile

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Post by jimjams on Dec 31, 2022 17:58:29 GMT

I'm surprised to hear anyone even have an opinion on Richards!?

How many minutes has he played? Has he started a championship game?

Roberts on the other hand really is a disappointment and I'd like to see him gone... Maybe he would work in a specific setup but he's no good to us.

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Dec 31, 2022 18:11:22 GMT

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Post by ranger-boy on Dec 31, 2022 18:11:22 GMT

Dec 31, 2022 17:58:29 GMT jimjams said:

I'm surprised to hear anyone even have an opinion on Richards!?

How many minutes has he played? Has he started a championship game?

From what I've worked out, he's played 133 minutes

Started away to Coventry (subbed off after 87 minutes), and came off the bench at home to Cardiff & Wigan, away to Birmingham and both Luton games. From the bench, he's been on the pitch for 46 minutes.

(That's from a quick check of my speadsheets for this season, so hopefully I have that all correct)

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Dec 31, 2022 19:19:11 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Dec 31, 2022 19:19:11 GMT

Dec 31, 2022 18:11:22 GMT ranger-boy said:

Dec 31, 2022 17:58:29 GMT jimjams said:

I'm surprised to hear anyone even have an opinion on Richards!?

How many minutes has he played? Has he started a championship game?

From what I've worked out, he's played 133 minutes: Started away to Coventry (subbed off after 87 minutes), and came off the bench at home to Cardiff & Wigan, away to Birmingham and both Luton games. From the bench, he's been on the pitch for 46 minutes.

(That's from a quick check of my speadsheets for this season, so hopefully I have that all correct)

'Speadsheets...'!? It is not just northwesthoop we have to expect stats from then!!

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Dec 31, 2022 20:24:11 GMT via mobile

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Post by ranger-boy on Dec 31, 2022 20:24:11 GMT

Dec 31, 2022 19:19:11 GMT kingfisher said:

Dec 31, 2022 18:11:22 GMT ranger-boy said:

From what I've worked out, he's played 133 minutes: Started away to Coventry (subbed off after 87 minutes), and came off the bench at home to Cardiff & Wigan, away to Birmingham and both Luton games. From the bench, he's been on the pitch for 46 minutes.

(That's from a quick check of my speadsheets for this season, so hopefully I have that all correct)

'Speadsheets...'!? It is not just northwesthoop we have to expect stats from then!!

Ha, maybe I'll have to bring back the old stats page I used to have!

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jimjams Terry Fenwick Posts: 2,392	QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Jan 1, 2023 10:00:12 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jimjams on Jan 1, 2023 10:00:12 GMT Well there you go... Thank you for the stat I think 133 minutes is a little soon to pass judgememt

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Jan 1, 2023 12:08:38 GMT via mobile

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Post by Ghost on Jan 1, 2023 12:08:38 GMT

Jan 1, 2023 10:00:12 GMT jimjams said:

Well there you go... Thank you for the stat

I think 133 minutes is a little soon to pass judgememt

True. But on the other hand the fact that he has only played 133 minutes in half a season is meaningful in itself.

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Jan 1, 2023 15:59:39 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Jan 1, 2023 15:59:39 GMT

In the last 2 seasons out of a possible 71 Championship games Richards has managed to start just 3 and only managed substitute appearances in a further 11 games.

Even an ageing and injury prone Lee Wallace managed 48 appearances in his last 2 seasons at QPR.

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December Jan 2, 2023 11:56:59 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Jan 2, 2023 11:56:59 GMT

Jan 1, 2023 15:59:39 GMT stoatey said:

In the last 2 seasons out of a possible 71 Championship games Richards has managed to start just 3 and only managed substitute appearances in a further 11 games.

Even an ageing and injury prone Lee Wallace managed 48 appearances in his last 2 seasons at QPR.

Point taken stoatey!

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QPR Vs Luton - 29 December

Post by stoatey on Dec 30, 2022 21:50:33 GMT

Post by northwesthoop on Dec 30, 2022 22:46:23 GMT

Post by Ghost on Dec 31, 2022 9:52:41 GMT

Post by kingfisher on Dec 31, 2022 9:54:28 GMT

Post by stoatey on Dec 31, 2022 17:35:57 GMT

Post by jimjams on Dec 31, 2022 17:58:29 GMT

Post by ranger-boy on Dec 31, 2022 18:11:22 GMT

Post by kingfisher on Dec 31, 2022 19:19:11 GMT

Post by ranger-boy on Dec 31, 2022 20:24:11 GMT

Post by jimjams on Jan 1, 2023 10:00:12 GMT

Post by Ghost on Jan 1, 2023 12:08:38 GMT

Post by stoatey on Jan 1, 2023 15:59:39 GMT

Post by kingfisher on Jan 2, 2023 11:56:59 GMT