Derby Vs QPR

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 3, 2024 6:04:13 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Oct 3, 2024 6:04:13 GMT

Ouch, the 3-1 home defeat against Hull and our first back to back defeats since January have ultimately dropped QPR into the bottom 3 ahead of this trip to Derby

We really miss both Clarke-Salter and Colack... will either return?

Ilias Chair looked rusty but will he be rushed back with points required?

What changes can we expect to a defence that looked all over the place against Hull?

Derby have lost 3 in a row themselves so is this a good time to play them or not?

We debate all of this, reflect on the Hull performance, touch on Marti's new deal and more in the final preview show before the international break. Do like if you can! Thanks!

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 3, 2024 7:26:52 GMT

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Post by singlespeed on Oct 3, 2024 7:26:52 GMT

we have 2 very winnable games now
portsmouth were hammered 6-1 by stoke last night
if we dont pick up at least 4 points from these 2 games then questions have to be asked
this is 100% not from me, but marti is being compared to ainsworth by fans on some forums
yes were in the bottom 3 now but were only 3 points from midtable too
its not panic stations yet but weve got to start winning games soon or we could dig ourselves a hole

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 3, 2024 11:15:13 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Oct 3, 2024 11:15:13 GMT

Oct 3, 2024 7:26:52 GMT singlespeed said:

yes were in the bottom 3 now but were only 3 points from midtable too

This is a key thing at this stage. Look at Hull winning 3 in a week and their whole outlook has changed.

Beat Derby and/or Pompey and the world feels different.

I don't understand why anybody elsewhere is comparing us with the Ainsworth tenure because back then we were defeatist and went into games with no plan at all and barely left our half. Now its much finer margins and it feels like we at least know what we want to achieve.

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 3, 2024 13:52:10 GMT via mobile

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Post by jimjams on Oct 3, 2024 13:52:10 GMT

Great pod guys

I'll go out on a limb and predict the back 4

I think its

Dunne Cook Fox Paal

I don't think Fox can do 90 so I think Dunne will move across and Santos will come on if we need to go forward or Ashby will come on if we need to defend

I don't know about the midfield but I believe Chair will start and do 45 to 60 minutes

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 3, 2024 14:16:00 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Oct 3, 2024 14:16:00 GMT

I enjoyed the podcast and I agreed with just about everything discussed. Regarding the Hull performance I tended to agree with Dave because I thought we were terrible.

What surprised me the most was Marti's tactics and his failure to react to the issue that Santos was having with Millar. Another issue was the way we defended corners by bringing back all our players. Dembele and Saito can't defend and by not leaving anybody upfield it left Hull with 10 men in and around our box which was certainly the reason for Hull's first and didn't help with Andersens decision making for the Hull 2nd.

The biggest issue has been how lightweight the midfield has been.

On Saturday Id like to see a more defensive set up but a lot will depend on whose fit. If there's no JCS or Colback then I think Marti should go with,

Nardi
Dunne, Cook, Fox, Paal
Field, Madsen, EDB
Dembele, Frey, Saiko

Subs, Walsh, Santos, Ashby, Andersen, Lloyd, Chair, Smyth, Andersen Celar

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 3, 2024 15:31:11 GMT via mobile

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Post by kingfisher on Oct 3, 2024 15:31:11 GMT

Oct 3, 2024 14:16:00 GMT stoatey said:

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The biggest issue has been how lightweight the midfield has been.

On Saturday Id like to see a more defensive set up but a lot will depend on whose fit. If there's no JCS or Colback then I think Marti should go with,

Nardi
Dunne, Cook, Fox, Paal
Field, Madsen, EDB
Dembele, Frey, Saiko

Subs, Walsh, Santos, Ashby, Andersen, Lloyd, Chair, Smyth, Andersen Celar

Do agree about the midfield being the issue. It needs to be stronger and offer options going forward. If Dunne was not needed at RB I would put him alongside Field, or if you go for a three man midfield I would prefer Andersen there instead of EDB (as he lacks bite in tackles and is not as good a header)

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 3, 2024 18:26:42 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Oct 3, 2024 18:26:42 GMT

Oct 3, 2024 14:16:00 GMT stoatey said:

On Saturday Id like to see a more defensive set up but a lot will depend on whose fit. If there's no JCS or Colback then I think Marti should go with,

Nardi
Dunne, Cook, Fox, Paal
Field, Madsen, EDB
Dembele, Frey, Saiko

Subs, Walsh, Santos, Ashby, Andersen, Lloyd, Chair, Smyth, Andersen Celar

I agree, I think he will set us up as hard to beat. After back to back defeats and dropping into the bottom 3 the match will probably be treated as 'must not lose'; stop the rot and then we have 2 weeks to reset.

Thanks everybody for the kind comments too about the show - and it's good to see that the Hull match is still polarising opinion 😅

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 4, 2024 22:14:52 GMT

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Post by ranger-boy on Oct 4, 2024 22:14:52 GMT

The issue I have with the Portsmouth game is we generally tend to start slowly after the International break, that's why getting a result tomorrow could be even more important. Even if it's a draw to ensure Derby can't put daylight between us

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 5, 2024 7:23:02 GMT via mobile

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Post by singlespeed on Oct 5, 2024 7:23:02 GMT

It really is a game we can’t afford to lose
Team confidence must be pretty low already
And going into the international break isn’t ideal if we lose again as we come back normally with a loss anyway
Even after winning a couple,we are poor after the break for some reason
I’d be happy even with a draw
Marti has to play Ashby today instead of Santos or we will lose 100%

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 5, 2024 7:58:24 GMT via mobile

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Post by loftussi on Oct 5, 2024 7:58:24 GMT

Oct 5, 2024 7:23:02 GMT singlespeed said:

It really is a game we can’t afford to lose
Team confidence must be pretty low already
And going into the international break isn’t ideal if we lose again as we come back normally with a loss anyway
Even after winning a couple,we are poor after the break for some reason
I’d be happy even with a draw
Marti has to play Ashby today instead of Santos or we will lose 100%

I'd also like to see Ashby start today. He's a natural right-back. Given a chance, I think he'll be keen to impress.

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 5, 2024 8:45:28 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Oct 5, 2024 8:45:28 GMT

Football is such a funny game when you know if we win today everything will calm down and the next 2 weeks will be quiet, but if we lose I dread to think what the QPR world will be like!

Such a contrast all to be defined by 90 minutes of football

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Derby Vs QPR Oct 5, 2024 10:07:59 GMT via mobile

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Post by singlespeed on Oct 5, 2024 10:07:59 GMT

Oct 5, 2024 8:45:28 GMT northwesthoop said:

Football is such a funny game when you know if we win today everything will calm down and the next 2 weeks will be quiet, but if we lose I dread to think what the QPR world will be like!

Such a contrast all to be defined by 90 minutes of football

You’ve summed it up in one northwest mate
We lose today it’s going to be a long fortnight

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jrperry1882 Lee Cook Posts: 629	Derby Vs QPR Oct 5, 2024 13:07:46 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jrperry1882 on Oct 5, 2024 13:07:46 GMT Madsen and Andersen together in midfield. Both go missing. Both passengers. Both inept off the ball in the tackle. Makes Field’s job impossible and undermines the back four. Can only see a Derby win as a result

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