Gentleman's Agreement

I'd still like to know why they lent him us anyway
He's proved how good a player he is for us
It just seems a bit strange why stoke would let him come to us when he's good enough for their first team

When they were relegated from the Premiership Stoke had around 14 midfielders to choose from. They then added to that number with their loan signing of Ryan Woods from Brentford.   FFP restrictions and the fact that Woods is also a defensive midfielder probably forced Stokes hand in trying to offload midfielders who they thought wouldn't be challenging for a first team place. As a result we managed to gain the services of a decent  player.

The loan of  Ryan Manning from us to Rotherham is very similar in that McClaren wanted to reduce his wage bill to bring in the likes of Cameron and to comply with FFP. According to all reports  Manning's  performances for Rotherham have been outstanding and the Rotherham fans want him to sign on a permanent basis. 

Credit to both Cameron and Manning because they have both taken the bull by the horns and their performances have now ensured they are probably the first name on their clubs teamsheet. The probability is that if both had stayed at their parent clubs then they would not have played too many games and couldn't have shown the form they are now producing.

Interesting but I would imagine that any agreement would be stuck by.
Why would you possibly risk club recalling their player.
More than likely if picked they would refuse to play.

I would say the parent club would be the choice.
Unless he was not happy about being loaned out.
Or has other gripes about club.

Yes I heard that too LurkR and was equally impressed with his composure, enthusiasm for playing at QPR, and his overall knowledge!