Both cases would increase our chances of survival in a difficult season. Northwest wrote
I think relying on other teams dropped points to keep us up although could help us is scraping the barrel a bit I know we are bad but are we that bad Then again the FFP fine has affected us through lack of funds and no transfers in January It does give other teams advantage,with our new additions I think we are good enough to escape the dreaded bottom 3 anyway
We can't moan if it happens As that's bottom 2 as good as sorted then Just got to avoid 3rd bottom then I think we should just have enough in the tank to stay out of bottom 3 if McClaren can find a playing style to suit all
I see that Villa have come up with an interesting twist on how to avoid falling foul of the FFP rules.
Apparently as things stand if Villa dont get promoted in tomorrows play off they will almost certainly fail FFP and as a result they could incur a huge fine and possible points deduction. To get around the fine and any points deduction the club intend to sell the ground to the owner who will then allow the club to lease the ground back. By selling the ground to the clubs owners it will mean a huge cash injection that can be offset against the possibility of failing FFP.
I suppose smart owners will always find a way around the rules. Other owners will financially mismanage their clubs and spend millions in legal fees and fines!
Now that they have been promoted it appears that Villa will get away with their overspending however, Derby could face a points deduction for similar profit offences to Villa.
The Rams sold Pride Park to owner Mel Morris for £80m, leading to a £14.6m profit for 2017-18.
But there are fears that has only kept the wolf from the door for the time being and there could be further losses sustained, leading to a points sting from league chiefs.
Sheffield Wednesday are also facing similar troubles.
Man City banned from European competition for 2 seasons. Wow.
That will have huge implications and sends a big message out.
I imagine Pep could leave now, especially after an under par season.
Is it just Man City or are there other clubs ignoring the rules? This ruling is as draconian as that inflicted upon Saracens! I am still waiting to see what happens with any Championship clubs who have flouted FFP.
It will be very interesting to see what allowances are made to clubs should the season be ended due to Corvid 19.
Having to pay players etc., whilst not getting any income could well send some clubs to the wall.
The suggestion that we are still 10 to 14 weeks away from the peak of Corvid 19 almost certainly means that if any football is played again this year it won't be until June at the earliest. If that is the case there will be further complications with players whose loan periods are finished and players whose contracts have finished.
Post by northwesthoop on Mar 16, 2020 22:37:33 GMT
It kind of goes against QPR though because we have put ourselves in a good position but now teams who were probably going to fall foul of FFP will play this card. It is like a get out of jail card, an excuse.
It kind of goes against QPR though because we have put ourselves in a good position but now teams who were probably going to fall foul of FFP will play this card. It is like a get out of jail card, an excuse.
Surely its going to be a fairly simple exercise to calculate what the financial cost will be for each club and adjust the 3 year figure accordingly?
Now that Man City have driven a coach and horses through the UEFA Financial Fair Play rules do we think that the regulations will be abandoned.
We know Norwich, Villa and Bournemouth have all broke the rules to gain promotion into the Premiership but will they be punished when returning to the Championship next season?
It seemed that when we broke the rules we were pursued over Hill and Dale but when teams like Derby, Sheffield Wednesday and Forest do a bit of dodgy accounting it appears the League drag their heels.
After Man City embarrassing the UEFA regulators I think FFP can no longer be enforced and therefore, I can see lots of clubs spending big to get into the Premiership.
Post by northwesthoop on Jul 16, 2020 16:01:26 GMT
Man City still got a fine but I do agree the deterrent is no longer there. Clubs will be more willing to gamble if the only threat is a fine, the money from going up will outweigh the fine.
Maybe the powers that be will now amend their legislation and rules to remove loopholes like massive sponsorship deals from the owner or selling the ground to the chairman and all that nonsense.
Man City still got a fine but I do agree the deterrent is no longer there. Clubs will be more willing to gamble if the only threat is a fine, the money from going up will outweigh the fine.
Maybe the powers that be will now amend their legislation and rules to remove loopholes like massive sponsorship deals from the owner or selling the ground to the chairman and all that nonsense.
Yes a £10m fine to gain up to £200m seems like a good investment to clubs!
Lee Hoos has written to clubs to attempt to reduce our £42 million fine, arguing it is unfair compared to the punishments other clubs have faced, including teams at this level and 'big' clubs like Man City and PSG: