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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 6:10:18 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Apr 22, 2019 6:10:18 GMT

5 years ago this was going to be one of the biggest and best QPR matches of all time, now it is pretty much a dead rubber for QPR whilst Derby have spent all 5 years in a similar position failing to make the play offs.

They need a win today otherwise this season will be ending in the usual Derby way.

Of course we haven't won away since December whilst Derby have an excellent home record. Also according to the BBC QPR have won none of their past 19 away league matches played on a Monday (W0 D4 L15) since a 1-0 win at Swindon Town in January 2000 under Gerry Francis.

If Rangel and Leistner can play then surely they will.

Whatever side we put out it looks like it will be a backs to the wall job going for a point.

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 13:14:52 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Apr 22, 2019 13:14:52 GMT

Lynch and Cousins drop out, replaced by Cameron and Wells so it looks like a switch to 4-4-2 whilst also having no centre halves available.

It also means the full backs appear to have no protection again.

Lumley
Wszolek Furlong Cameron Manning
Freeman Scowen Luongo BOS
Wells Hemed

Personally that line up does not fill me with confidence

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 13:32:10 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Apr 22, 2019 13:32:10 GMT

I think it would be fair to say that the Back 4 will need a lot of support, and the last match showed precious little of that apart from Scowen (who seemed to be everywhere)! That means the midfield must be at their very best to take the pressure off the defence by blocking Derby's progress and supplying balls to the front two. I would also add that the subs bench is looking rather bare of experience.

P.S. Apparently Lynch has a hamstring problem....(no idea what it is with Leistner though)

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 13:48:04 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Apr 22, 2019 13:48:04 GMT

Apr 22, 2019 13:14:52 GMT northwesthoop said:

Lynch and Cousins drop out, replaced by Cameron and Wells so it looks like a switch to 4-4-2 whilst also having no centre halves available.

It also means the full backs appear to have no protection again.

Lumley
Wszolek Furlong Cameron Manning
Freeman Scowen Luongo BOS
Wells Hemed

Personally that line up does not fill me with confidence

This team really sums up what TF has done to our club.

No permanent manager

No recognised full backs playing in the full back positions.

No recognised centre back in the centre back positions.

No recognised leader in the squad let alone the team.

Two strikers that belong to other clubs and whose goal scoring record this season is poor.

TF you should be ashamed of what you have done to our club and my fear is that you won't stop until you get to build houses on the Loftus Road ground!

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 14:16:13 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Apr 22, 2019 14:16:13 GMT

10 minutes gone and a good start! Cannot fault there tenacity against a class side!!

25 mins and (I cannot believe this) QPR are the better side so far...

HT and 2 shots apiece on target but QPR have 5 shots off target to Derby's 2. If there had been better use of half-chances I think we would have (justifiably) been one up - i.e. we are still wasting opportunities with poor finishing!

60 mins and, although Derby are being more positive, it is still 0-0. Lumley's clearances are often going out for no reason....

93 minutes penalty (that was not a penalty) and Derby get a goal. Life is cruel when you are a QPR supporter....

99 mins and Lumley's dire kick upfield leads to 2 Derby players getting acres of space and it only needs one of them to score! 2-0...

Last Edit: Apr 22, 2019 16:05:32 GMT by kingfisher

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 15:59:53 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 15:59:53 GMT

Deserved a point
Last minute penalty as usual

And a poxy last minute goal from a ropey Lumley goal kick out
Doesn’t matter now
We are safe officially after Rotherham losing

Effort from start to finish with patched up team, you cant ask for more than that
Roll on next season

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 16:59:55 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Apr 22, 2019 16:59:55 GMT

Despite another defeat we are now safe and the one positive was that our patchwork team at least showed some effort.

Disappointing that we were again the architects of our own downfall as we gave away another late penalty. Derby hadnt really threatened and the only way they were going to score was from a QPR mistake and that duly occurred with Freemans clumsy challenge on Bogle. The referee had been looking to give Derby something all afternoon and that was his opportunity. Lumley whose kicking was abysmal for the whole of the 2nd half then made a hash of a back pass to help contribute a 2nd to Derby.

Now we are safe it would be nice to see a couple of youngsters given a chance but I'm not sure that there are any who currently warrant a first team spot. Even our youngsters who are out on loan seem to be struggling. Only Chair seems to be getting regular football whereas Oteh and Smyth tend to be no more than bench warmers.

The future is not looking good!

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 18:07:15 GMT via mobile

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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2019 18:07:15 GMT

We played ok today and deserved a draw
The outlook for next season is pretty grim but there must be some raw talent in our squad raring to go next season
Are we banking on a big fee for Freeman and others to fund some player spending next season
Our aim will be the same not to finish bottom 3 next season but we got it easy this season due to 3 awful teams below us that never endangered us in reality
Next season a lot tougher,Luton and Barnsley or Pompey coming up Huddersfield Fulham and Cardiff coming down

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 18:54:15 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Apr 22, 2019 18:54:15 GMT

Yes we deserved a draw and the ref, plus at least one assistant ref, made some poor decisions. Derby are yet another side who know how to play the ref.... On the positive side, this QPR side fought long & hard,so full credit to them. We lost but the team can hold their heads up high in the manner in which we were beaten!

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 19:19:31 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Apr 22, 2019 19:19:31 GMT

Definitely agree with you all that we can have no complaints with the efforts of the team today but that should always be the minimum standard and it makes it more frustrating that we played so poorly with little fight against Blackburn.

It was never a penalty, I couldn't believe the ref blew for it. It was a 0-0 game that Derby somehow won 2-0.

We knew we were safe anyway but to have it confirmed at least means the club can now talk to prospective new managers with that clarity of where we will be.

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Derby V QPR Apr 22, 2019 21:33:44 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Apr 22, 2019 21:33:44 GMT

Apr 22, 2019 19:19:31 GMT northwesthoop said:

Definitely agree with you all that we can have no complaints with the efforts of the team today but that should always be the minimum standard and it makes it more frustrating that we played so poorly with little fight against Blackburn.

It was never a penalty, I couldn't believe the ref blew for it. It was a 0-0 game that Derby somehow won 2-0.

We knew we were safe anyway but to have it confirmed at least means the club can now talk to prospective new managers with that clarity of where we will be.

Now we are safe the club need to be honest about whether there is any likelihood that the new manager will have any money to invest in new players. If the answer is that TF has totally emptied the safe then we need a manager who can operate in the lower leagues because relegation is assured next season. Our results this season speak for thereself and our squad is both lightweight and lacks any real quality.

The club's owners have got to start being realistic and look at the likely hood of relegation rather than living in TF's dream world of a free new stadium and promotion without investing in new players.

We need a proven lower league manager that has ambition not a failed Championship manager who is just looking for a pay day or one that is a failed Championship manager that is mates with the DoF..

For me Danny Cowley and his brother would be ideal for QPR because they are ambitious, they know the lower leagues and they know exactly who are the best young players in the lower leagues.

The one thing that the club needs is stability and we need a manager who can rebuild us from the roots. Its no good the club appointing another manager for a period of 10 to 12 months, it's now about sticking with a manager and letting him build his own team.

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