QPR V BRENTFORD 1-4

Of course we should go for it. We are not Chelsea or Arsenal and any 'cup run' is extra football hence building team morale and a winning mentality, I just can't stomach the thought that we wouldn't play like it was a cup final. There needs to be a rethink about how we view these important games.

Another thing too that I feel is a valid point. I don't live in London, wish I did but I don't. I would love to take my boy to watch QPR. How do I explain to him that we've paid good money to watch a team 'dick around' and not really try to win. I don't think that sets a good tone!

Agree it comes too early in the season maybe but not sure how they can avoid that without fixtures being just as crammed when it starts later in the season.

They can never get rid of a scenario whereby we have 2 matches to play or pay for close together.

I think it would help if they included all teams from the start so the lower clubs have more chance of getting a big team, that may increase interest. The League Cup now works heavily in favour of the already successful teams. It also means less matches if everybody is in the hat from the start as more get knocked out earlier on.

In round 1 we were guaranteed to play somebody from lower leagues - hardly attractive

For the lower league clubs there were no Premier League teams in the hat yet to get them excited - again hardly attractive.

You don't see Federer, Murray or Nadal getting a bye in the first 2 rounds of Wimbledon - if they did less people would watch the first week. It is the same with this cup in my eyes.

It also doesn't help them giving it a stupid brand name and doing the draw at 4am in China - it alienates fans.

Wow, 10 changes. Baptiste the only player to keep his place and he is named captain.

Full Debut for chair. Smith doesn't start.

Take a look at @qprfc's Tweet:

Am I going crazy or is Brentfords goalkeeper coach our former keeper Simon Royce? Looks just like him and has the initials SR on his jacket

And it is Simon royce

Wow 0-3 and would be worse if not for Ingram.

Shambolic. Turned the crowd against the team, boo's ring, early season positivity out of the window.