Burnley Vs QPR

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 24, 2024 8:55:01 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Oct 24, 2024 8:55:01 GMT

2nd from the top plays 2nd from the bottom.

Incredibly QPR will head to Burnley on Saturday on a run of 7 league games without a win... which is exactly the same winless streak we were on when we last visited Turf Moor in April 2023... when of course we won 2-1.

Can we repeat that unlikely victory?

If Ken Paal is out what defence and formation would you pick?

Does Kieran Morgan deserve a start in midfield?

Would you drop Dembele or Chair, or both?

Does Zan Celar start again?

Here is this weeks QPR Preview Show where we discuss the Coventry draw, Burnley and lots on Zan Celar!

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 24, 2024 9:04:52 GMT via mobile

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Post by singlespeed on Oct 24, 2024 9:04:52 GMT

Incredibly QPR will head to Burnley on Saturday on a run of 7 league games without a win... which is exactly the same winless streak we were on when we last visited Turf Moor in April 2023... when of course we won 2-1.

Can we repeat that unlikely victory?

NO

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 24, 2024 9:45:08 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Oct 24, 2024 9:45:08 GMT

Not strictly related to the Burnley fixture, but rather to the up and coming Sunderland match, I mentioned on the last preview podcast how top sides seemed to attract more yellow cards as they pushed harder for victories; and there is an interesting article about 3 of the Black Cats hovering on suspension:
Yellow Cards

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 24, 2024 13:54:43 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Oct 24, 2024 13:54:43 GMT

Oct 24, 2024 9:45:08 GMT kingfisher said:

Not strictly related to the Burnley fixture, but rather to the up and coming Sunderland match, I mentioned on the last preview podcast how top sides seemed to attract more yellow cards as they pushed harder for victories; and there is an interesting article about 3 of the Black Cats hovering on suspension:
Yellow Cards

I don't see much correlation myself between yellow cards and doing well.

The top 5 for yellow cards are Preston (16th), Norwich (7th), Portsmouth (24th), Blackburn (6th) and Stoke (17th). No pattern whatsoever as I see it.

Portsmouth are top 5 for fouls and are bottom of the table!

Sunderland are 19th for fouls.

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daveb Don Masson Posts: 735	Burnley Vs QPR Oct 24, 2024 17:24:09 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by daveb on Oct 24, 2024 17:24:09 GMT Frey and Paal out for a few weeks according to West London Sport so loaning out Larkeshe for the season looks a bit daft now

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 24, 2024 17:30:27 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Oct 24, 2024 17:30:27 GMT

Oct 24, 2024 17:24:09 GMT daveb said:

Frey and Paal out for a few weeks according to West London Sport so loaning out Larkeshe for the season looks a bit daft now

Also makes not replacing Dykes look a bit foolish too. Frey already struggled with injuries in his short time with us last season so was always going to struggle again at some point.

Fox and Celar need to step up to the plate!

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 24, 2024 18:15:22 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Oct 24, 2024 18:15:22 GMT

Dave and James got it in a nutshell when they discussed how poor our recruitment has been. Prior to this year weve actually recruited and paid good money for such talents as Taylor Richards, Macauley Bonne, Andre Dozzell, Liam Kelly, Sean Goss, Charlie Kelman, Lyndon Dykes, Conor Washington etc.etc.,

Apart from Luke Freeman I'm struggling to remember any player that we’ve paid money for in the last 7 or 8 years and then made a profit by selling them on.

Whilst Dieng and Eze both made us money neither were signed for a fee and we'd probably have to go back to Matt Phillips sale in 2016/17 to find another player who we purchased and then made a profit on their sale.

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 24, 2024 21:54:25 GMT

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Post by kingfisher on Oct 24, 2024 21:54:25 GMT

Sussex Rs are suggesting Frey and Paal are our until December, so a good few weeks if that is the case! OK, at a pinch, Saito, Field or Fox can cover the LB position - but that is at the cost of them not playing in their normal position! I said before the transfer period ended we needed another Left Back....

Then up front we have a choice of Celar (seems lost), Lloyd (who needs loaning out for experience) or Kelman (who we loaned out because he is not Championship level) or Kolli (who we wanted to loan out but just managed to p*ss him off instead).
Chickens are coming home to roost....

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 24, 2024 21:57:44 GMT

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Post by northwesthoop on Oct 24, 2024 21:57:44 GMT

I think we may see Kolli return from exile now that Frey is out.

I think Kolli has a lot more potential than Lloyd, so the club are going to have to be ridiculously stubborn if they still don't include Kolli when we could clearly do with him.

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 25, 2024 10:37:30 GMT

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Post by daveb on Oct 25, 2024 10:37:30 GMT

Oct 24, 2024 18:15:22 GMT stoatey said:

Dave and James got it in a nutshell when they discussed how poor our recruitment has been. Prior to this year weve actually recruited and paid good money for such talents as Taylor Richards, Macauley Bonne, Andre Dozzell, Liam Kelly, Sean Goss, Charlie Kelman, Lyndon Dykes, Conor Washington etc.etc.,

Apart from Luke Freeman I'm struggling to remember any player that we’ve paid money for in the last 7 or 8 years and then made a profit by selling them on.

Whilst Dieng and Eze both made us money neither were signed for a fee and we'd probably have to go back to Matt Phillips sale in 2016/17 to find another player who we purchased and then made a profit on their sale.

QPR are always more likely to self harm when we have money to spend

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kingfisher Les Ferdinand The Sussex Rs fan group celebrate drawing with Sheff Utd Posts: 9,283	Burnley Vs QPR Oct 25, 2024 14:33:22 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by kingfisher on Oct 25, 2024 14:33:22 GMT With Frey and Paal out, I hope our line-up will be: Nardi Cook Dunne Fox Ashby Field Varane Saito Smyth Celar Chair
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stoatey Gerry Francis Posts: 8,623	Burnley Vs QPR Oct 25, 2024 15:31:02 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by stoatey on Oct 25, 2024 15:31:02 GMT Oct 25, 2024 14:33:22 GMT kingfisher said: With Frey and Paal out, I hope our line-up will be: Nardi Cook Dunne Fox Ashby Field Varane Saito Smyth Celar Chair That's a brave shout replacing JCS for Fox.

northwesthoop Stan Bowles @admin Posts: 12,644	Burnley Vs QPR Oct 25, 2024 15:51:01 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by northwesthoop on Oct 25, 2024 15:51:01 GMT Based on the injuries I think he will go: Nardi Dunne Cook JCS Fox Varane Field What's in front of that I can't decide. I'd drop Dembele but I'm not sure Marti will.
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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 25, 2024 16:06:02 GMT via mobile

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Post by jrperry1882 on Oct 25, 2024 16:06:02 GMT

Oct 24, 2024 21:57:44 GMT northwesthoop said:

I think we may see Kolli return from exile now that Frey is out.

I think Kolli has a lot more potential than Lloyd, so the club are going to have to be ridiculously stubborn if they still don't include Kolli when we could clearly do with him.

The Kolli situation is down to few things — mainly refusal to sign a new contract as well as the abuse he and his dad have received online regarding pro-Palestinian posts. The contract stuff is made all the more difficult because of the options available to players his age. Saudi Arabia allows clubs to have a player born after 2003 as an extra foreign player. Kolli fits that. And as an Algerian Muslim international it’d be an attractive option for him. We can’t compete with that sort of money, particularly if he’a looked at by sides that are of substance. So I think the contract dispute is a case of the player knowing his worth standing his ground, and the club trying to get him to stay on the cheap. Add to that the rumours I’ve heard re Lyndon Dykes ‘ departure this week and that would be my main belief.

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Burnley Vs QPR Oct 25, 2024 17:08:35 GMT

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Post by stoatey on Oct 25, 2024 17:08:35 GMT

It's highly unlikely that we can expect anything out of tomorrow's game but a lot will depend on how we cope with Josh Brownhill who controls the way Burnley play. If we give Brownhill time and space he will not only dictate the game he will also score goals. I'd like to see us man mark Brownhill but that might be wishful thinking.

Our issue so far this season has been our inability to keep a clean sheet and IMO we've not been helped by some players lacking the physical attributes for the Championship. Against Burnley we will need to play a more defensive set up, stop Brownhill and look to frustrate. I want to say that we might be able to catch them on the break but our lack of pace probably means that won't happen.

Under normal circumstances I don't see Fox in the starting line up but because of Paal's injury he probably has to play. Marti could of course fool us all by playing somebody else in the left back role but I'd presume Fox is more likely. Against Wycombe he did try Ashby I the left back role.

I think Marti should go,

Nardi
Dunne,Cook,JCS, Fox
Field, Morgan, Varane
Chair, Celar, Saito

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Post by northwesthoop on Oct 24, 2024 8:55:01 GMT

Post by singlespeed on Oct 24, 2024 9:04:52 GMT

Post by kingfisher on Oct 24, 2024 9:45:08 GMT

Post by northwesthoop on Oct 24, 2024 13:54:43 GMT

Post by daveb on Oct 24, 2024 17:24:09 GMT

Post by northwesthoop on Oct 24, 2024 17:30:27 GMT

Post by stoatey on Oct 24, 2024 18:15:22 GMT

Post by kingfisher on Oct 24, 2024 21:54:25 GMT

Post by northwesthoop on Oct 24, 2024 21:57:44 GMT

Post by daveb on Oct 25, 2024 10:37:30 GMT

Post by kingfisher on Oct 25, 2024 14:33:22 GMT

Post by stoatey on Oct 25, 2024 15:31:02 GMT

Post by northwesthoop on Oct 25, 2024 15:51:01 GMT

Post by jrperry1882 on Oct 25, 2024 16:06:02 GMT

Post by stoatey on Oct 25, 2024 17:08:35 GMT