What’s strange is the general impression that he was a good manager by all our loan players Wells Cameron And Rangel now All saying on Twitter one of the best managers they’ve played for Did he just get it wrong on match days or did the players just not turn up,my impression is he is a good coach but not man manager
If it is Sherwood I expect our attendances to drop below 10,000 before the end of the season. I have yet to see anywhere any QPR fan who wants him so why would the board want him? I'll repeat that he would not get any other job in football. I still don't believe these Sherwood rumours.
I also have to question the club heavily if they do want a quick appointment because there is no rush really and at this stage after 4 years treading water we really need to get the appointment right. We cannot afford a rash decision on this so the club is bonkers if it makes a decision overnight.
They should use the next month to do a thorough hunt and interview process and then appoint the new manager as the season ends.
What’s strange is the general impression that he was a good manager by all our loan players Wells Cameron And Rangel now All saying on Twitter one of the best managers they’ve played for Did he just get it wrong on match days or did the players just not turn up,my impression is he is a good coach but not man manager
Like you singlespeed I believe that McClaren is probably a better coach than a manager. The question that we need Messers Wells, Cameron and Rangel to answer is, "if McClaren is a good manager" why have we only won one of our last 15 games. I suspect that If they answered truthfully it would be that the majority of our squad are poor players who even Pep or Jurgen couldn't improve.
As so many have said previously it won't matter who takes the managers job because unless there is some investment in the squad we will struggle.
I want owners who have QPR at heart not some West Ham fan who is more interested in turning LR into a housing estate.
If it is Sherwood I expect our attendances to drop below 10,000 before the end of the season. I have yet to see anywhere any QPR fan who wants him so why would the board want him? I'll repeat that he would not get any other job in football. I still don't believe these Sherwood rumours.
I also have to question the club heavily if they do want a quick appointment because there is no rush really and at this stage after 4 years treading water we really need to get the appointment right. We cannot afford a rash decision on this so the club is bonkers if it makes a decision overnight.
They should use the next month to do a thorough hunt and interview process and then appoint the new manager as the season ends.
I'm with you on this one northwesthoop we need to take our time and get things right. I just fear that unless we can bring in several experienced young players our owners expectations far outweigh the abilities of our squad or any manager.
There will also be an issue In 7 games time about the out of contract players like Hall, Lynch, Bidwell etc., As a fan who has watched most games this season I know who I would keep and who I would let go but a new manager might only see these guys play 3 or 4 games. It's frightening how poorly run the club has become.
Just saw it stoatey It would be a sensible choice Could say the same hasslebaink scenario But hasslebaink took over a side rowett built not his own ideas
Just saw it stoatey It would be a sensible choice Could say the same hasslebaink scenario But hasslebaink took over a side rowett built not his own ideas
Bowyer has plenty of experience as a player and as the Charlton manager he has certainly worked on a shoestring budget so he would fit the QPR owners criterea. I'm not totally convinced he would be the right man but he appeals more than Tim Sherwood.
We need to get real and consider that with our finances We may need a good future league one manager It’s the problem we are punching above our weight and nobody will make us a good championship side with our playing staff and money Some of the fans and board think somebody out there may get us back in the premier league,it won’t happen We need to get real and take a step back and at this moment in time and maybe say it would be better to do well in a Lower league and not try to compete with teams like Leeds spending millions on players If we think looking over our shoulder every season in the bottom 6 and then sacking the boss every year is the way to go It isn’t we need to get out of this cycle and get real and look ahead,it might not be all plain sailing but it may be the best for the club in the long term
Bowyer has just 6/7 months experience at Charlton. I am not sure what really qualifies him for the role of QPR manager at this point. He has past history at Charlton so has been a good fit there. There is very little to suggest why he is the man. He could well be but I'm not sure.
As a few of us have now said it doesn't really matter who we appoint if we have no investment in the playing squad.
Gerrard and lampard both walked into management without much previous experience Lee bowyer will stay at Charlton anyway In my opinion But id take anyone rather than Sherwood
Gerrard and lampard both walked into management without much previous experience
They did single matey; but to what effect exactly? Sure, neither have been unmitigated disasters - though not a few of us might have wished that on Frank!
But neither have done much. The best you could say for either of them, with fingers firmly crossed behind your back, is that neither club is not too much worse off with them at the helm.
Under Lampard, Derby have invested very heavily, getting 9 new players in, spending money we could only ever dream of (Waghorn £5 million, Marriott £3 million, Jozefzoon £2.75 million, Malone £2+ million, George Evans £1million) while signing loans from Chelscum and Liverpool (Mount, Wilson, Tomori) who wouldn't go near us, just to hang around the fringes of the play-off places, which would be the minimum expectation most seasons even without that raft of transfers in, with zero chance of automatic promotion.
Meanwhile, Gerrard has fared perhaps worse. Don't let Glasgow Rangers second position fool you. Despite, again, investing heavily and (like Lampard) using his contacts to loan in EPL team players (e.g. Ryan Kent from Liverpool, easily Glasgow Rangers' best player) Rangers have not closed the gap on a Celtic team who are now worse than they were last season. For instance, currently Rangers have 60 points from 31 games; at the same stage last season (after 31 games) Rangers had 62 points, with a weaker squad, and the Pedro Caixinha/Graham Murty freak show in charge.
As for Bowyer, aren't we just perhaps giving him a little more benefit of the doubt because he isn't (because of his incredibly short time as a manager) a proven failure, unlike the rest of those desperados we are being linked with?
Most of you will remember 4 seasons ago, when old saggychops 'Arry Kneecap left, Clements was many supporters' and the board's dream candidate - remember Tony's tweet that he was about to make the most exciting imaginable appointment, and the expectation that Clements was a shoe-in to signing?
So now he is available. And would probably jump at the chance to kick-start his management career. And has an affinity with the club that would endear him to supporters and allow him a bit more leeway. And is a talented coach - which we need with our ongoing financial position and reliance on developing young players. He could be tasked with fulfilling the remit that Schteve was brought in for, and which Schteve then abandoned after 5 minutes. And he just needs to get us enough points in the last 7 games to fall across the survival finishing line - then refresh and go again next season, when the reliance on coaching rather than buying your way out of trouble and to stability will be even greater than this season.
'But he was a failure at Reading' is the cry - yup, but Reading, that squad; Jesus (Christ, not Gabriel) would have struggled with Reading. Before that he was an EPL manager, and the manager of Derby - incidentally getting sacked for the crime of Derby being in 5th place just 2 points off automatic promotion, something beyond Fat Frankie.
Ah well.
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Paul Clement is a good name to raise Rosco Bosco as he illustrates how managers are only as good as their last jobs. Stock can fall so quickly. From 'dream manager' to somebody most would turn their nose up at.
It just goes to show what a fickle game football is and how quickly opinions can change.
2 years ago we would all have loved Gary Rowett and been chuffed to steal him from Birmingham. Now it seems he's not flavour of the month and most don't want him.
Back to Clement, in reality he has probably proven to be a bit like McClaren - a better coach than manager. He'd be worth an interview though. Talk to him, see what his vision would be.
I only hope this appointment proves successful in the long term. When was the last time we had a manager taken from us because they were doing so well? Venables? That is so poor. I'd love to see a big club wanting our manager because they come in a revolutionise QPR. That is what the board need to be aiming for with a meticulous, long interview process. Not a shotgun appointment.